harris, damanti -- i wanted to specifically herar the cac. is there something in writing that i could take with me? i did not hear it. president crowley: we will ask mr. richard to come up. i believe you are responsible for the report? to briefly share with this person the carmine report that we have. madam, he is going to briefly report on that for you. thank you, steve. >> you have in your packets a quarterly update report, the first of believe in 2009, the last report to the commission, and it provides the latest information we have. this has been in our system for the last several years. using chloramine, it has resulted in our reduction in the use of will recall by products. when you use a straight chlorine, it forms disinfection byproducts, which in many cases are considered to be carcinogens, so you still love it efficient defection -- so you still love each fission disinfection. there is additional research going on out there. i believe that report is online. there is a report from the epa region 9 that would reinforce that we were on