my guest today, dame stephanie shirley, was one of those children.live an extraordinary life of achievement and philanthropy, blazing a trail for women in business. so, what lessons can we learn from a woman determined to make the most of a life so nearly extinguished in childhood? theme music plays. dame stephanie shirley, welcome to hardtalk. thank you for inviting me. we've invited you almost 80 years — exactly 80 years — from that moment when you were forced to leave your home. your father put you on a train, it's called the ‘kindertransport‘, and you ended up in an alien country, in london, in england. what do you remember of that journey? well, of course, i was only five years old, so all the things that i remember, the childish things. i remember the little boy that kept being sick, i remember losing my doll and then finding her again. and the general — what is england, what is happening? i was with my older sister, renata, who was aged nine, so if you think how small a 5—year—old is, it was a traumaticjourney and an extraordinary change to a

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