he was in "breaking bad," and now he's in "billions" with, you know, damien lewis. >> we have a preview of the upcoming season finale. watch. >> hurt you in ways you can't see. >> you have a problem. >> you can't use what you found there. it's inadmissible. >> remember the contingency plan we discussed? >> i'm a man with unlimited resources with nothing to lose. >> this is an intense show. very popular and critically acclaimed. david, welcome to good day new york, and congratulations on the hit show. >> thank you very much. >> so what's it like? sometimes the good guys are the bad guys, the bad guys are the good guys -- >> listen, we like to mix it up and make sure you have no idea where we stand. >> okay, let's talk about your character. is it modeled on anybody? >> i think in the majority of what we're doing, we want to be close enough where people who are in that industry would recognize, we'd be like, oh, it's just like that guy, but it's not one particular thing, because then you have to follow that story rather than fictionalizing it, and it's much more fun that way. >> but the wo

. >> damien lewis is the redhead. >> who may or may not be a criminal. and giamatti there is the prosecutor who really wants him. >> by the way, who may or may [laughter] with us are the co-creators of this terrific series. brian koppelman, david levine, nice to have you. >> thank you, guys. >> it is great to be here. >> what i love about the show is it's very hard to distinguish between the bad guys and the good guys. >> yeah. we were really interested in this moral gray zone, and it's easy to create a construct like that guy's bad and that person's pure hi good. but as easy as it is to vilify people who succeed financially, if you look at people who have used these prosecutorial positions like spitzer or cuomo or christie for -- >> giuliani. >> giuliani, huge. more their own personal advancement, it makes you wonder what are the motives, right, dave? >> absolutely. and as far as making a show, for us it was just much more interesting to have nuances to these characters. e we wanted them to be individuals, and no person is all go o all bad except maybe

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sort of interesting juxtaposition there, damien lewis. wonder what people talk about at this dinner sometimes. but kind of conversation have you had at this dinner? >> i have brought a lot of interesting people to this dinner. jonasne from the brothers. >> the national monetary fund. >> yes. the jonas brothers? >> are brought the jonas brothers. sting, mick jagger, quite an array of people. miranda lambert. and kristin gillibrand, the senator from new york, so a real range. >> what is mick jagger like as a dinner partner? >> he is terrific. terrific. christine lagarde, only one of the most powerful women in the world. >> scanning to find out to whom she belongs, which media organization. >> i believe that she is a gust of "the wall street journal," which makes sense. good guest for them. >> speaking of "the wall street journal," they also invited christie turlington burns, susan rice. burns family outing. i saw donald trump junior as well. both of his sons are there. no sign of his daughter-in-law. >> according to someone here on there's