i rang him on the phone, he told me he would be dead in six months, but he set me up with damien o'haraand his way is to sit with you for five hours while you smoke while he talks about smoking. we were in a hotel room, by the time we were done i was so sick of cigarettes and realized the tobacco companies put one over on me, i was angry and as a result i never picked up cigarette again. i realized it's like selling crack to kids. damien o'hara convinced me it was crack and allen karr died at 73 years old. >> how hard was it to kick it? >> i kicked it that day. i just said, i'm stupid, really stupid, this is cracking and i'm not going to do that to myself. it's complete b.s. tavis: that, i suspect sounds foreign to some people. if you are to believe the latter part of your formulation, that you've been had, hoodwinked, led astray, sorry spike, by the tobacco industry, the argument is that it's an addiction. if you're addicted, how do you kick it cold turkey? >> you're so upset, pissed off, how upset i was at myself overcame my addiction. whatever rem innocent of pride i found in mist, i