>>> tonight on "nightline," when dan met dan. the extraordinary story of our abc reporter and the boy whose life he changed forever. he came to the u.s. from a war zone. what happened next was shocking. how a fairy tale turned into a nightmare. all on tape. a special edition of "nightline" starts right now. >> announcer: from the global resources of abc news, with terry moran, cynthia mcfadden and bill weir in new york city, this is "nightline," december 1st, 2010. >> good evening, i'm cynthia mcfadden. and tonight, we bring you a special edition of "nightline," the extraordinary story of a reporter and the iraqi boy he tried to help. and how it all went terribly wrong. the story begins in baghdad in 2006, two weeks before saddam hussein was hanged, with sectarian violence raging in the runup to the u.s. troop surge. life took an unexpected turn. here's his account of when dan met dan. >> reporter: it all starts with a chance meeting at a school in baghdad in the middle of a gun fight. >> shots. a lot of shots. >> reporter: you'r

>>> and dan and dan. our dan harris, and the iraqi boy named dan he tried to hard to help. a personal journey with a twist that changed both their lives. >>> good evening. we begin with four words designed to get the attention of every american. the moment of truth. it's the title of the wakeup call released today by the president's commission designed to get the united states out of debt. it is a document filled with tough choices and painful proposals to rein in america's now runaway debt. the chairman of the bipartisan panel says now is the time to act or this crisis could destroy america from within. and jake tapper has been going through all the details in the report tonight. >> reporter: that's right, diane. this report constitutions one of the starkest warnings yet and the prescriptions will be tough for the public to swallow, and even more difficult, perhaps, for politicians to support. the co-chairs of the president's debt commission issued a stark warning today. >> this debt is like a cancer. it is going to destroy us from within. >> reporter: the u.s. risks facin

i'm dan harris. tonight on "world news," whiteout. the epic blizzard bringing blinding snow and screaming winds to more than 70 million americans tonight. how long will this thing last and how bad will it get? >>> nowhere to go. highways shut, trains halted, thousands of flights canceled. stranding travelers heading home from the holiday. >>> shocking questions. a new generation of powerful tasers, even some police officers say they may be too dangerous. >>> and, wheel of misfortune. the game show contestants who lost $800,000 even though they answered the big question correctly. and all they're getting now is a do-over? >>> good evening. forecasters call this kind of dynamic intensifying storm a bomb. and tonight, more than 70 million people are feeling the fallout. the snow is piling up from the deep south all the way up to canada. this is a time lapse picture from central park here in new york city today. blizzard warnings are posted from maryland to maine. close to two feet could fall in some pla

what do you see here, dan? dan: well, they go to st. louis and that's not going to be easy.e, who is struggling. that week 17 game could be very interesting. you look at the raiders' schedule, how it matches up. indianapolis. they get them in oakland, which is a real key playing the colts and peyton manning. jim: third down here with 1:25 remaining. and bush. just refuses to let the first guy take him down. san diego came in four-game win streak, averaging 33 points a game in those four wins. maybe the most impressive performance anyone had seen this season the way they beat up indianapolis in their house. dan: talking to tom cable yesterday, he said we're going to emphasize the run. he'd been saying that all week after two disappointing losses, to pittsburgh and then at home against miami. mcfadden going for 97 yards on the ground and bush for 5. that's getting it done on the ground. jim: one last snap and the raiders will have their season sweep in the books. they got some breaks early and pounced on every opportunity they had. dan: and what about the game that jason campb

. >> dan: sean smith has been battling a bad ankle throughout the week. he was questionable before this game. he's had his hands on half a dozen balls this afternoon. >> ian: on 4th and 8, rex ryan decides to try the fieldgoal. nick folk. from 42 yards away, weatherford will hold it. folk has got it. 10-6 miami. 5:21 left in this fourth quarter. battle in the afc east here at the new meadowlands stadium. dolphins 10, jets 6. 5:21 remaining in this fourth quarter. dolphins interaction is 6-6, the jets are 9-3. not a lot of offensive highlights to show you. henne to brandon marshall the only touchdown of the day. this one looked to be a touchdown but holmes unable to bring it in for the jets. a drop in the end zone. couple of nick folk fieldgoals. carpenter with a fieldgoal as well for miami. the miami dolphins have just 131 total yards, yet tony sparano's team is leading mark sanchez an the jets 10-6 with just over five minutes to play. >> dan: santonio holmes is 42 yard reception, key to that last drive, longest drive of the afternoon but the jets again o

i'm dan ashley. baseball season may have ended but the battle to keep the a's in oakland has just begun and opening night is tonight. the planning commission is discussing a proposal for 39,000 seat ballpark near jack london square. something the team's owner has repeatedly said he does not want but city leaders are moving forward anyway. alan wang is at the commission meeting for us live tonight. allan? >> no secret that the a's want out but major league baseball is trying to keep the marriage together. the city of oakland is betting that major league baseball will force the a's to stay here and accept the proposed stadium. a crowd of mostly hardcore a's fans packed the zoning commission meeting to hear about the 39,000 see the stadium. four proposed sites but major league baseball favors a site near jack london square. the project also includes 700 condominiums and more than office square feet of offense and retail space but would displace the fire department training center and 16 businesses inclu

yesterday dan baked cookies.i get to show off our skills in the kitchen. >> yes, fortunately we're going to get some cooking lessons from more competent people. that's ron's chili. >>> we'll begin with the pictures of the morning. the royal family just released the official engagement photos of prince william and kate middleton. it's just the latest in a long line of preparations leading up to what will probably be what will surely be the wedding of this young century. jeffrey kofman is all over the story this morning in london. jeffrey, good morning. >> reporter: oh, good morning to you, dan. it's a full time job, let me tell you. that's right. the world's most famous soon to be married couple have released their engagement photos. they were actually snapped november 25th a week after the engagement was announced but released to the world today. take a look. looking both glamorous and relaxed, prince william and kate middleton chose these two official portraits to mark their engagement. celebrated photographer m

that's odd to you, dan? it's california, not newton, massachusetts. >> what's also odd is the unusual weather. we should mention that chikage windler was own her way to new york for us. we asked her to stay in minneapolis in the thick of things. and she's joining us now with the latest on the cold weather. good morning, again. >> good morning, bianna. i'm right here at home. four inches of snow so far, headed to totals above a foot. in the northwest u.s., it's a different problem. not snow but rain. seattle and portland looking for rain, as much as 6 inches possible. heavy snow will be the feature for the mountains. across the entire u.s., you can anticipate near blizzard conditions in parts of minnesota. but 70s in orlando. and lots of sunsh >> and, dan, i know you're jealous looking at me here in the snow and cold. we'll talk about that coming up. >> i'll try to conceal it. thank you, chikage. see you in the next half hour. >>> now to amanda knox, the young american convicted of killing a british student i

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i'm dan harris. >> and i'm bianna golodryga. it's sunday, december 19th. this morning, historic vote. the senate overturns don't ask, don't tell, opening the door for gays to serve openly in the u.s. military for the first time ever. advocates call it a giant step forward for civil rights. and it's a big victory for the president. >>> epic storm. a once-in-a-decade winter storm is pounding the west coast. heavy rain is already causing mudslides. and 15 feet of snow expected in the mountains. we're live in the thick of it. >>> crucial victory. hope for amanda knox as an italian court rules that it will allow a review of dna evidence used to convict her of murder. could this eventually set her free? we'll talk live with her mother and father. >>> and royal affairs. prince william and kate middleton make their first public appearance since their engagement. while prince harry makes his first public comments about his new sister-in-law-to-be. >>> and it was a historic vote in washington. bill clinton was in the white house 17 years ago when don't ask, don't te

dan kind of had it right. this is a monster. this is a true nor'easter that has this city, in fact, the entire east coast, in its sights. up to a foot and a half of snow expected in some areas. and it's all coming on a very, very busy holiday travel weekend. it's the day after christmas present nobody wants. especially travelers. >> i'm frustrated. >> merry christmas. thank you, delta. >> this is going to be a real, honest to goodness nor'easter and a blizzard. >> reporter: coming at the end of a holiday weekend, travelers can expect conditions that will make getting home or back to work on monday difficult at the very least. >> air travel, i think, is going to be shut down as we go through sunday, especially midday sunday from washington to new york. >> reporter: in atlanta, delta canceled hundreds of flights saturday. some passengers did take the inconvenience in stride. >> you can't control the weather. and you just have to, you know, anticipate, i think, ahead. >> reporter: continental airlines released this statement saying

but, dan, can the -- could these people legally sign for him? they have power of attorney to sign the tax return? >> they had power of attorney for him, yes. that was, in fact, the case. >> larry: so how is he convicted? >> well -- >> this is one of the questions we've been trying to figure out, larry. >> larry: well, if you presented to the jury evidence that someone with power of attorney signed tax returns, how could he be convicted of not filing a tax return? >> well, in fact, larry, at least we have information to suggest that many of the jurors didn't, in fact, think that mr. snipes was guilty of anything and that several did, before the trial started. so, therefore, as a compromise, them thinking that the judge would never, ever sentence mr. snipes to any jailtime for a misdemeanor, that was the compromising verdict. >> larry: we'll be right back with more of wesley snipes and his attorney daniel meacham. he will have to sign into federal prison on thursday. don't go away. introducing bayer am. its dual-action formula delivers extra stren

i'm dan harris. tonight on "world news," end game. they call it a lame duck congress, but they seem to be getting a lot done. they're still in session on this sunday night, as president obama tries to eke out one last victory. >>> totaled. an epic storm is pounding the west tonight. they're bracing for a foot of rain, 15 feet of snow, mudslides and even avalanches. meanwhile, there's a blizzard crippling europe tonight and more snow is on the way there. >>> winning streak. a towering achievement in college sports. but is it not getting enough attention because the players are women? >>> and, the secret santa leaving a trail of tears, smiles and dropped jaws after he quietly drops cash in the very place where he knows the people who need it will find it. >>> good evening. it seems like members of congress may be getting more done during this so-called lame duck session than they have all year. yesterday, that historic vote to let gays serve openly in the military for the first time in american history

>> reporter: a whole lot, dan. the leader of the democrats say they'll stay until january 5th to get it down. one of the big items they'll be voted on today, is don't ask, don't tell, the policy about gays in the military. looks like it will come up for a vote today. and it appears it may pass. it's got a lot of republican support. if congress votes to repeal this, it doesn't go into effect immediately. it gives the pentagon approval to go ahead and get rid of that policy down the road. part of getting that out of the way, is to congress can talk about the s.t.a.r.t. treaty. this is an arms treaty with russia. very important to the president. he wants this done before they leave. they will probably vote on that monday or tuesday. so, still a lot to do on that. also today, the d.r.e.a.m. act. this is a rewrite of some of the rules on immigration. it would allow children of illegal immigrants a pathway to citizenship. it's a bit controversial. it may have a hard time getting through today. it may actually go to the n

dan to dan do you think that we the blogosphere is mature enough now that will can start really influencing policy like that because i think it is a repeat you know i think everybody failed in the most people in the media failed overwhelmingly to stop war in iraq is this new media strong enough now to be able to put a brake on power. i think there are certainly a growing influence in the the newer media whether i can't speak to the specific case because it's a little too hypothetical right now but there are in some fields. certainly politically the the blogs are being read more than ever in politics the new media sites are very much part of that information ebb and flow in the technology world the online media pretty much are the media it's pretty much moved over to online in technology and that sort of thing so they have enormous influence there and in various parts media things are moving over from the print broadcast to the to the web and other media but i have to also agree that the traditional media still play an enormously enormously important role and it's so essential to hold their

i'm dan harris. on "world news" this sunday, through the roof. amazing footage tonight of heavy snow bringing down the dome of a football stadium in minneapolis. this storm is also paralyzing travel and now, dangerously cold air is moving in. >>> the madoff suicide. we have new details on what may have led bernie madoff's son to kill himself. and why madoff's 2-year-old grandson might now be liable for repaying the scam victims. >>> desperate measures. it has come to this. cash strapped cities now charging accident victims who need help. this woman was billed $1,500. they're calling it the crash tax. >>> and, the fur is flying. the american invader that has even the british royals up in arms. this is a fight to the finish. >>> good evening. people in the midwest are, of course, used to punishing snowstorms, but it has been a long time since they've endured anything like this. this is an epic blizzard, dumping a foot and a half of snow across the upper midwest, paralyzing travel, even bringing down th

and he asked the other dan, dan harris asked the other dan, are there days when you wish you never mete days i wish that, even though i know the opportunity that i had. >> a metaphor for high expectations but they were dashed when it comes to this country and iraq. high expectations but they were dashed when it comes to this country and iraq. tory. around his house. these people chose freedom over restrictions. independence over limitations. they chose mobility. they chosehe scooter store. and this is the team of mobility experts who made it all happen. ii great news, you've been approved for payment. dr. cruz, i'm calling on behalf ofmarie stanford. and they can make it happen for you. hi, i'm doug harrison, if you're living with limited mobility, call the scooter store today. i promise, no other company will work harder to make you mobile or do more to ensure your total satisfaction. i expected they'd help me file some paperwork with medicare and my insurance. i never expected them to be so nice or work so hard to get me a power chair at no cost to me. call today and let the scooter

dan, you're the man. good morning, everyone.a landmark vote on don't ask, don't tell. if a entrepreneurial vote succeeds as expectsed, the repeal of the ban on gays serving openly in the military could get passage. >>> the purse that tried to hit a school board memberer firing at a meeting, will be auctioned off on ebay. the security chief was secreted for saving the lives of the board members. >>> barry bonds want to keep former baseball players from testifying at his trial next march. bonds is charged with perjury and obstruction of justice, after telling a grand jury, that he never took performance-enhancing drugs. >>> and actress anne hathaway visited a public school in new york city on staten island. and stunned those kids by inviting the school choir to perform at the oscars next year in l.a. and the kids went nuts. [ screams ] pretty cool, huh? >> they should host the oscars. >> they were told they have to pay their own way. >> the same songs? >> sensational. >>> and now, from those kids back to the weather. in the west,

next slide, dan. as you know already, the plan is to demolish the front of the building to create the northeast wharf plaza, which will be the next significant civic space in san francisco. and then behind that towards the water will be the cruise terminal. what you see on the screen is scheme a and b. scheme add looked at reusing the existing shell, and scheme b looked at using a new building on the side. the existing shell did not offer us much of an opportunity to do a green building because it was not environment altight. also, the g.t.a. that we could provide with the new structure was increased in size. this reduced traffic impacts during some of the larger ship calls and was a significant motivator for choosing the newer scheme. so after feedback from the cruise ship industry, we looked at the larger option. dan, shift to the next scheme. which makes the overall building longer. so it encroaches slightly into the plaza area, and it gets longer towards the part where we allow trucks to go out to

>> reporter: dan.t weeks away from being totally cured and she's looking forward to continuing school and living a long and healthy life. can i have a high five? do you know how to do that? all right. for "nightline" this is dan harris in new delhi. >> be the change, save a life, is supported in part by the bill and melinda gates foundation. for more information on how you can help, you can go to abcnews.com or saveone.net. our thanks to dan harris for that. when we come back, an all hands animal rescue. but first, here's what's up next with jimmy kimmel. >> jimmy: tonight, larry king, kate bosworth and comedian greg fitzsimmo fitzsimmons. it's going to be best hanukkah ever. "jimmy kimmel live" is next. ♪ i'm gonna get it, i know i'm gonna get it. ♪ ♪ i can't wait ♪ every little step, brings me closer to the gift. can't be late. ♪ ♪ rip it open in a second and it's time to play. ♪ ♪ i was up all night in anticipation feeling electric jewels of jubilation. ♪ ♪ yule tide carols from the local congregati

>> reporter: dan.t weeks away from being totally cured and she's looking forward to continuing school and living a long and healthy life. can i have a high five? do you know how to do that? all right. for "nightline" this is dan harris in new delhi. >> be the change, save a life, is supported in part by the bill and melinda gates foundation. for more information on how you can help, you can go to abcnews.com or saveone.net. our thanks to dan harris for that. when we come back, an all hands animal rescue. but first, here's what's up next with jimmy kimmel. >> jimmy: tonight, larry king, kate bosworth and comedian greg fitzsimmo fitzsimmons. it's going to be best hanukkah ever.

please welcome doctor dan cohan. >> thank you susan, well, it's a privilege to be here. i'm really impressed with the gathering that you've all assembled here in and the quality of the discussion. so i know that i don't want to wear out my welcome so i'll try to get through this sort of on time. you know at one time there was a pointer up here, and seems to have disappeared. so, maybe we can go on to the next slide and in the meantime we'll find a pointer. it wasn't very many years ago or not that many audiencesing a that i sort of felt like i was in a slightly different environment than the one i heard this morning. the way i'm going to structure this talk is to - thank you - okay. is to talk about mainly observations first and then models and observations second, and then kind of sum up. so next one. if you look at the traces on this plot, which is a global average version of surface temperature of the earth, the thick dark line in this trace is actually the observe or what we estimate to be the observed temperature of the earths surface, and the other part - the color

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then dan bernal, speaker of the house nancy pelosi's director. we have megan miller, field representative for barbara boxer. also joinin us is the vice presidnent. moving here is a great treat for gsa. it will the -- be the hub of activity. this will be a state-of-the-art facility. during the depression, arthur brown jr. designed a new federal building in san francisco. he went out of his way to make this a complementary feature of the nearly-completed pacific center area. the civic center is a scene of events of great importance, including the founding of the united nations and the peace treaties with world war ii. this shows as a poll reform moving to the united states. the architecture and plans are regarded as some of the finest and most complete manifestations of the beautiful movement. there is a scholar of classical architecture that says that this is the greatest ensembles of architecture in america. in 1899, the mayor was considering concepts the proposed establishing the grand civic center for san francisco. and leon know what had happe

dan? >> sandhya, thanks. >>> rain here of course means snow in the sierra where 260 inches has already fallen. and that is close to a record. the slopes are jam packed at ski resorts like north star atta hoe. they haven't had this much snow this early since 1997. most ski areas are expecting the busiest week of the year. >> i started boarding about six years ago and it is kind of my stress relief. i have a lot of fun. >> shops and towns like truckee are enjoying the trickle down affect of the influx of tourists including this woman from montreal. >> we have landed in a cowboy town. it is so cute. >> it is cute. >> roads are clear, but the winter storm watch kicks in tomorrow. >>> down south residents of one of the southern california towns hardest hit by this week's storms caught a small break today. dozens of people were allowed to return to their mud-swollen homes in the san bernadino area of highland. they were given two hours to salvage what they could from christmas gifts to important

que después de que se diera a conocer una primera acusacion por parte de una menor de 17 años, ahora danría estado también en el evento del 20 de diciembre en xtumal. >> y esto se habría hecho con cierta violencia >> kalimba está en espera de citario a declarar, ahora le sale una segunda víctima. >> y dos acusaciones de la misma noche. >> ahorita los escándalos nos vienen por partida doble. >> y el cuento aquí es que supuestamente le rentaron al señoras kalimba tres habitaciones, pues él fungía como dj esa noche. >> el mismo procurador ha confirmado que sí, la primera víctima sí presenta, con los exámenes físicos que sí hubo violación >> la muchachita lo señala a él. >> y también la segunda víctima lo señala a él. >> las autoridades dicen que hoy miercoles fueron enviados los citatorios, y se espera que se reciban estas acusaciones, para que lo llamen a declarar >> y prácticamente a esta niña le ocurrió cuando ella estaba dormida. entonces insisto en esto, qué hace una chamaca ahí >> yo te entiendo hasta cierto punto, donde están los padres de esta niñas. >> no hay justificacion >> qué h

that is where near the area were dan kerman just was reporting from. and that raw sewage drains into a creek the goes into san francisco bay. the problem and the solution. to run this on the side near this field is replacing this pipe. and running a hose along this bridge to a man hole on the other side. to divert that switch so it does not spill and the creek. also, this problem the same thing, the most problematic. they've had to install a third bypass with running a hose across a major intersection. and that has spent training into a manhole, over here. that has been a training, into a manhole, over here. that has been dreaming, to a man who, over here. that has been draining, to the manhole, over here. some residents are upset that they were not notified properly or in a timely manner. will be following up on that section soon. >> and through the sierras, we have just spoke with the c h p it is clear now. and if you're going to dry up? to drive up--today, because they're expecting heavy snowfall saturday, sunday. >> panel? >> to bring in the new ye

thank you, dan. that was very informative, and we look forward to the final outcome next year. >> item 8-3, request authorization to advertise a request for proposals for soliciting service for the pier 70 crane coffee park planning and citizen, funded through proposition a. >> i'm not going to try to balance this. i am david with planning and development. i want to recognize norman nelson, who has been assisting, steve, the engineering project manager as well as the rest of the pier 70 team. prior to going into the context of the request for approval to issue an r.f.p. for the design and planning of crane coffee park, i thought it would be worthwhile to put it in the context of a couple of other projects, including the blue green way planning, the clean and safe general obligation bond and the planning to date on pier 70. as you know, in 2008 san francisco residents and voters passed proposition a, the clean and safe obligation bond, $33.5 million to the port, of which $22.5 million was specifically

did dan aykroyd bring you any of the vodka? >> no, he didn't.ng red wine backstage. >> jimmy: congratulations on your marriage. >> thank you. >> jimmy: you eloped or something -- what happened? >> no, no. we had -- >> jimmy: small wedding. >> we did have a small wedding. that's with my son. just the three of us. >> and a guy in a bath towel. >> they're laid back there in hawaii. that's what makes it hawaii. >> jimmy: it's a good thing this is hawaii because otherwise it's just a pervert marrying you. >> otherwise it's awkward in malibu. >> jimmy: was your son your best man? >> he was. we had rings and then we did a bracelet for him. >> jimmy: how old is he? >> he's 8. >> jimmy: not much of a bachelor party? chuck e. cheese or something? >> he got wasted. really wasted. but he was good. he made it through. he sobered up in time, you know. watered him down and it was good. >> jimmy: do you wake up every morning, and you go, you married megan fox. nice job. >> i do. >> jimmy: you should be proud of yourself. >> i know, i am. is this my water? >> ji

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there are now several generations of van groningens working together at the farm, including dan's 86-year-old dad. in recent years, the family has diversified the farm and has 4,500 acres in production of a variety of crops, so now when the sun goes down on the melon harvest, work just begins on the other big crop, sweet corn. >> yeah, we like to do it at night, uh, because the corn's cooler at night, and we-- it takes less to get the heat out of the corn at--at night. uh, if we harvest during the day, there's way too much heat in the corn, and the corn will go into a starch. >> after harvest, the corn is kept cool at the packing shed and is quickly sorted and boxed up on ice. dan says he hopes to harvest more than 19,000 ears of corn per acre, and with 1,000 acres planted, that's a lot of kernels, to say the least. but luckily they've got a lot of loyal customers, like the cattlemens restaurant chain of northern california. >> we get it here. we, uh--we prep it, get it--we wash it real good. we get it ready for the pot. i-it's in the pot, i would say, no more than 20 minutes. soon as