it is about 40 minutes. >> do professor dan ariely. what do you teach at duke? >> a few classes, in the a, a behavioral economics, psychology for economists and an undergrad class and every year i change that. one year, it was code listed in economics and literature and i ask the students to run an experiment in behavioral economic tour to write short stories using principles from behavioral economics. the big undergrad class, last year i taught the class with cathy davidson, trying to learn from students and very what i teach. >> host: what is behavioral economics? >> guest: the best way to think about it, a view of the human being as being perfectly rational. and look into the future, just information, always makes the right decision. these are assumptions, not something the economics test, just assumed that this is the case. puts people in different situations and you see how people behave. people behave in very irrational ways and systematically rational way of and we have different ways to do that so for example if you build the policy, you might have a par