and it would have been hard for anybody. >> dan balz, will he build the wall? >> he'll try to build the wall. will come to the conclusion, i suspect, that you don't necessarily have to build the entire wall. >> rose: it can only shall a block long, its he a wall, he built a wall. >> he will try to build the wall. but i think in many ways it's the rhetorical wall that he will build about what this country is and who we are open to and who we are not that is the more important aspect. i mean he can build a wall or not on the u.s. mexican border but the degree to which the united states is an open country and a tolerant country or a closed country and a suspicious country, i think is what we're waiting it see in terms of the definition of a president trump as opposed to candidate trump. >> i think there are four words that define donald trump and maybe his presidency, which is actually five, the art of the deal. he's a deal maker. this is not val yous driven. they are maybe in broad terms. he is guy that can cut the deal. i completely agree, this will not be-- the

charlie: but dan balz, will he build the wall? dan: he'll try to build the wall. and he'll come to the conclusion, i suspect, that you don't necessarily have to build the entire wall. charlie: yes. it can only be a block long and a wall and built a wall. dan: he will try to build the wall. but i think in many ways, it's the rhetorical wall that he will build about what this country is and who we're open to and who we're not that is the more important aspect. he can build a wall or not on the u.s.-mexican border. but the degree to which the united states is an open country and a tolerant country or a closed country and a suspicious country, i think is what -- what we're waiting to see in terms of the definition of a president trump as opposed to a candidate trump. >> yeah. i think there are four words that define donald trump and maybe his presidency. which is actually five. the art of the deal. he is a deal maker. this is not values driven. and broadly -- in broad terms. but he's a guy who thinks he can cut a deal. so i completely agree. this will not be as long -

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dan balz, i couldn't agree more with you. joining us is bill crystal, editor of "the weekly standard," chief of staff to dan quayle in the bush 41 white house. bill, very strongly and eloquently you spoke out against donald trump. he is the president-elect. he's there now. what do other republicans, such as yourself and, perhaps, steve hadley or others who have served in previous administrations do when the call to service comes, or do you expect that they would be included? >> i think everyone has to make up his own mind. obviously, he's the president-elect. i wish him well. we wish him well. people who have the opportunity to serve and think they can serve, now they have to make sure they're not being asked to follow policies they can't in good conscience support, so forth, but i would encourage my never trump friends to be open-minded about a trump administration and willing to help. we all have an interest in his success. i've talked to a couple of republican senators, congressmen, they have a huge role to play. someone as