obama is the one that started it with the asia pivot now we could see military conflict our friend dan collins has said that could be coming of course there's another issue that could cause a lot of unrest in america as far as i could tell right now it looks like 2020 we're going to see trumpery elected it's pretty crazy for me to see the u.s. domestically acting like it does internationally all the time i like coups and overthrow and you know basically intervening in the electoral process so i can't see. them allowing it to happen that chung could win but on the streets on the street level you see that there isn't much the poorer for any of the democratic candidates other than bernie sanders and bernie sanders we know you know it was revealed at the end of the year that apparently somebody who knows insider knows that obama says he will intervene if it looks like bernie is going to win the nomination the democrats aren't going to win. so i mean strong points remember trungpa success is because a democrats can't seem to get out their own way right hillary clinton ran the worst campaign in hist

and by the way, we are just learning this, dan collin peterson of minnesota is now being pressured towitch parties and the reports are he's on the line. the congresswoman, to talk about jeff, congressman, jeff van drew, am i getting that name right? who also switched parties. could this be -- maybe this could be a domino effect here. >> yeah, couple of points. you are right. we need another white paper on impeachment. they didn't explain it well enough. think about this. the result of the impeachment the president's approval rating up. swing district polls going against, down against impeachment despite the hearing. minority of voters historic levels for republican candidate for reelection at this point. how do you not look at this, put a spreadsheet together and say this is an abomination, piled on to what you said van drew leaving the democrat party to become a republican and now what if another congressman exiting the party? how are you looking at this with a straight face, yeah, we pat ourselves on theca back. this was a great move. come on, this was an abomination. the smart demo

for impeachment taking on doug collins from georgia and at times turned today's hearing into a class on constitutional law. good evening. i'm kristen sze. >> and i'm dan ashley. karlan was one of four called to weigh in on the impeachment case against president trump specifically to help define what the constitution describes as high crimes and misdemeanors. >> abc 7 news reporter with more on her testimony. liz? >> reporter: good evening. stanford law professor pamela karlan is known for progressive causes and she was certainly the breakout star. she did have some of the most fiery moments of the day there was one moment that some say went too far. it was stanford law professor pamela karlan that stole much of the spotlight. >> i spent all of thanksgiving vacation sitting there reading these transcripts. i didn't, you know, i ate like a turkey that came to us in the mail that was already cooked because i was spending my time doing this. >> reporter: karlan was one of four brought in to make the case for or against impeachment. in a moment that has gone viral she defended her knowledge of the inquiry after republican congressman doug collins suggested

collins. >> i'm sorry. >> let's come back to the table here with our legal analyst. dan, our chief legal tamasist, one thing you heard in the committee debates and the rules debate earlier yesterday, both sides looking back to the founders to justify their position on impeachment. >> and both sides are using language that was used in various debates and isolating particular phrases and saying, see, this proves what the founders actually meant. because the problem is, when you read the words of the constitution there's ambiguity with that, that means, what did they mean when they wrote that? both sides trying to make the argument. i think one thing to note here as we talk about the process big picture here is that when you're talking to terry before, looking back on history and how presidents have dealt with this situation, what you have the president doing here not trying to fight this impeachment but undermining the process. he's trying to say, this all doesn't matter. don't listen to any of the specifics of what you're hearing. the entire process is flawed. and i think

dan quayle, and george w. bush. so that part of the old republican party, you can say, well, they're history. they were taken over by the trump party. but if you're looking at people like susan collins, gardner, and mcsally, these folks have a lot of people in their states who don't love trump. they might be conservative. they might be independents. and it's directed at them. the question is will they say to their senators, you just can't go with mcconnell on this. if you do you're going to get punished not in a primary but in a general election where you need the independents and you need the swing voters to hang on to your seats. so that's directed mostly at people in those states. so people watching here from arizona, colorado, maine. >> they're the ones that are expected to -- >> they're the ones they hope will contact their senators and say don't vote with mcconnell, vote for a real, not a fake trial. >> let me read you this tweet from senator lindsey graham about the dynamic unfolding with nancy pelosi. he writes, "stop playing games with the constitution. in our system you cannot be the speaker of the house and the senate majority leader at the same time. the senate will deci

republican ranking member doug collins just said that the gop has a good many amendments, and republicans plan to introduce today. now, let's hear from dan in kalamazoo, michigan, on the democrats line. dan, good afternoon. >> caller: well, hi. i'm sitting here watching the mark-ups, and it is sort of amazing watching the republicans try to keep shifting the goalposts at every possible opportunity, and especially when, you know, the articles of impeachment that are actually introduced by the democrats were really narrow in scope. we have not even talked about donald trump's taxes or any sort of the emoluments issues that the man has, and i only hope that stuff comes to light as we continue to progress. >> how would that be related, dan, to the two articles of impeachment? abuse of power and obstruction of congress that have been discussed? >> caller: for one hand, the abuse of power, and that is clearly happening with his continued access as far as people in trump tower and the use of trump tower is basically sort of a lobby for foreign lobbyists who do want to actually gain influence with donald trump, because obviously, money is the on