and dan dicker, principal partner with a wealth management firm and senior contributor at thestreet.comou hear. i want to start with you, lynnette. we've always said that student loan debt is good debt. is it now bad debt? >> you know, historically, obviously, people have said that, for the reasons you cited. they say, it's going to help you to earn a bigger wage, you're going to make an investment in yourself. and i've always told people that, just like any other form of debt, mortgage debt, credit card debt, et cetera, student loan debt can absolutely be bad debt if you put it into one of two categories. one, it's unaffordable for you to pay back. or, two, you have absolutely no plan for how you're going to get rid of it. you talked about having student loans and i had $40,000 in student loan debt when i graduated and got my master's degree from usc. the fact is, this is a huge problem for a lot of people and we can't automatically say, student loans are good, a good form of debt. because it's simply not the case. >> but when i look at the speed with which they have increased. so quad