look to dan fisher is a professor in the infectious diseases division at the national university of singapore. he's also the chairman of the world health organizations outbreak alert and response networks joined just by skype from singapore. thank you for your time . so as i've been saying, parts of asia really struggling right now, some in the 3rd waves is all down to the delta variant, or are there other factors that play to thanks kim. yeah. this, there's several factors of play and there's, there's probably different reasons in, in different countries. and i think if you, if you look at south korea, for instance, they've had cases through most of the and they've never tried to get to 0. so, so really it's, it's about the number of existing people, the number of existing daily cases growing. and i think that's probably partly fatigue. partly partly delta, but, but then there's other countries, for instance, malaysia that it was doing very well based on its border controls. and once those were breached in the 2nd half of last year, then we really found that the, using that their public heal

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