joining us now, former israeli ambassador to the u.n., dan gillerman. hello, sir. have you here again on our program. >> thank you, uma, it's good to be with you. >> let me get your reaction to what we have been hearing, that both sides are hoping to move forward towards some type of a deal, but yet we are also hearing no side is willing to take the first move. >> well, israel has taken the first move several times. israel has agreed to five or six cease-fires which were all broken by hamas, including the latest humanitarian cease-fire. it is quite obvious that israel will not -- will not negotiate under fire. this is something we cannot do, will not do, and i don't think anybody expects us to do. if hamas ceases the fire, we will continue our negotiations not with hamas. hamas is not a partner to anything. we will negotiate with egypt, we will try to restore egypt's leadership over the arab world, and together with other partners in the region, with saudi arabia, with some of the gulf states, hopefully with the cooperation and help of the united states and europe

is it the beginning of the end, or as we heard from ambassador dan gillerman, the end of the beginningat do you say about the conflict that's going on and all the unrest ensuing? >> well, kelly, first of all, it's just a horrific situation to be living in a country that is so close in proximity to a place that is launching rockets towards you. i mean, if any listener has not been to israel, it's really hard to understand just how close gaza is and how close these rocket launches are to the israeli people. and no one should be second-guessing what the israeli government's responsibility is to its people. they are trying to protect their people from rocket launches. >> no one, including the american people, if i might add. we've seen that some people in to 0 give into that kind of drastic action, and that was when some israeli people had captured a young palestinian and killed him in retaliation. so now we've seen that hamas has continued this whole thing, ending cease-fire, cease-fire deals have been brokered but breaking it by attacking israel. so what else is israel supposed to do? >>

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