. >>> to get more insight into the church of scientology, i sat down with co-editor dan gillgoth anded him is scientology a cult? >> well, it depends who you ask. scientology is a relatively new religion. it was born really with the first church of scientology in 1954. and almost from its inception there's been all of these battles whether it's a true religion or a cult. and you have challenges not only from religious groups who say it's not a true religion. you have challenges also from the world of science, which disputes a lot of what scientology says about mental health. you have challenges really from the irs, who didn't acknowledge scientology as a religion with tax exempt status until the '90s. so it's always been this embattled religion and it depends on who you ask. >> it's interesting that you say that, because you can understand why some don't see it as a religion. when you think about traditional religion, there is not one central deity at the top, there is no christ, there is no god, there is no buddha or any figure like that. they talk about ufos and they use it as scie