dan goldman. "post" adds this.that he was stunned and frustrated during a 2:22 p.m. conference call when city officials asked for national guard assistance and senior army officers, lieutenant generals charles flynn and walter piatt advised against providing it. at 2:22. other witnesses interviewed as part of the investigation said that piatt was concerned about public blowback over the sight of uniformed personnel potentially confronting political protesters, that the army needed a plan before inserting soldiers into the crisis. so we know from the ig, dan goldman, that at 2:22, walker was, quote, stunned and frustrated. but what do you want to know about what happened between 2:22 and 5:00 to deal with what amount to concerns about confronting donald trump's backers? >> well, i want to know what was going on between the white house and the pentagon. i want to know the calls that mark meadows was having at the time. i want to know the calls that others, senior officials in the white house -- i want to know whether

. >> dan goldman, let's talk about mark meadows. what should the legal advice be that a guy like mark meadows is receiving, right about now? well. >> the legal advice should be that you need to shop, and there is no excuse for not showing up. recently, a district court dealt with us in the mcgahn case in 2019, and said, quite definitively, but there's no such thing as absolute immunity. if you have an executive privilege claim, and mark manilow's, unlike steve bannon, very well may. then you have to show up, and you have to make that executive privilege claim in person. the president has to assert it. and it's important, though, brian, to take a step back. there's a lot of discussion about whether donald trump can assert executive privilege, or whether joe biden can. so mark meadows perspective, it's legitimate for him to say. i don't know who decides executive privilege. but someone is telling me, a former president is telling me that he wants to invoke executive privilege, it's not on me to make the decision as to whether that's i

all right, juanita, you heard dan goldman's answer, a polite way of saying this bannon matter can godchildren get old. what do you make of the indictment against bannon and what it may symbolize? >> politically, it couldn't come at a better time. it was 22 days after the house referred krim cal contempt charges, and it has teeth and it's ready to come for any answer who tries to stone wall the investigation. i think dan's analysis is right. he wants to be a martyr. expect appeal after appeal after appeal. bannon is different. other witnesses might not be willing to take a criminal charge for trump. other witnesses may not be able to fight court battle after court battle for trump. so honestly, i'm looking at this like the signal to the other witnesses like the select committee will come for you with intent. and it's a matter of time before the first witness comes. fighting criminal charges, taking criminal charges is not something that everyone on the list will be willing to do. so keep an eye out for the first witness to reverse course. and i think the committee is not going to slow

we started this hour with this story yesterday, and i think dan goldman and john both made the right0? >> yeah, that's absolutely the right point. the first breach of the capitol happened at 1:50 and the call came instantly from the chief of the capitol police to the pentagon asking them to send in troops and actually the mayor of d.c. had made a request even earlier than that, when she saw the people that were assembling at the capitol. while it is important, because every minute matters, but the difference between 4:35 and 5:08, the real question is why the pentagon took so long and different people from the pentagon and talked about it that and given answers that they worried about the specter of servicemen in military uniforms confronting peaceful protesters. no doubt they had in their mind those ugly scenes over the summer of 2020 when secretary esper and general milley had accompanied the then president as he made that walk across lafayette square after clearing the square of protesters. so, there are some potentially kind of good faith reasons why they might not have, but they

. >> daniel goldman he joins me now. dan, okay, how big of a deal is this and what happens next? >> well, it's a big deal because rarely as you pointed out as something like this charge. this is a very influential person in trump's world as you just heard from some of his ranting on his podcast today. it's a big deal. in many ways it's a big deal was merrick garland is drawing a line in the sand saying i am not afraid of partisan political brush back or -- i am going to reinstate the rule of law. that was what was missing in the trump administration. that's what we are facing with all of these insurrectionists and accusations that they con to this day about the big steal and all that stuff. i think the message is significant for steve bannon. the message is even more significant for our institutions defending congress and congressional subpoenas and defending the rule of law which we desperately need in this country. >> on bannon's case, he just douse not show up. he has no real plausible claim. he's a podcaster who's like buddies with the president and there is no callable claim

coming up, dan morris of bnp paribas asset management and christian mueller-glissmann of goldman sachs i am glad you bring that up. it is november 15 of this year, and it is still about making money. it is still about what do i buy. it is still the heart of what we do. jonathan: the outlook, but will it feature? higher rates? cpi in and around 5%? lisa: the biggest bearish call you're going to get is wobbles in the s&p that will be viable dips and that will prevent anything from falling out of bed. i'm not hearing any catastrophic calls. jonathan: when do we get your outlook? lisa: on december 31 of that year. [laughter] jonathan: looking back. tom: it's up to 64 pages now. she's doing a powerpoint. it's going to be 272 pages. jonathan: a monthly subscription to the abramowicz bears. lisa: you've got to pay in bitcoin. jonathan: equities up 0.2% on the s&p. we advanced nine points. from new york city, good morning to you all on radio, on tv. this is "bloomberg surveillance. " ♪ >> in this negative yielding world we are and, all roads still need to equities. >> real yields are at histor

dan, thank a lot. thank you for jumping on with us. katie koch of goleman stocks still with me. -- of goldman sachs still with me. do you play tesla?right now, 5% of auto sales are in ev, but it is really important for people to focus on this. we are at an inflection point of x been into growth, and a lot of the things happening in the market right now is the market trying to price that which is actually really difficult to do, but it is really any cripple inflection point, and the bill is going to help this because what we are seeing is the cost curve inflect. when that happens, that is when you get explosive innovation and explosive growth, and the cost curve, just to put that into context, we are now almost at cost parity between a traditional ice and electric vehicle. so taking a step back, how do you play this space? we talk about the pure play ev companies. the second area to look would be the traditional auto companies. can they actually transition to take market share here? this is going to be really difficult. we have picked one company with gives going to win there, which is gm, but it is a very difficult thing to reinven

. >> daniel goldman served as majority counsel in donald trump's first impeachment, he was assisting the u.s. attorney of new york and he joins me now. dan, how big a deal is this and what happens next? >> well it's a great deal, because rarely as you pointed out has something like this charged, this is a very influential person in trump world as you just heard from some of those rantings in his podcast today. it is a big deal, in many ways it is a big deal because merrick garland is drawing the line in the sand saying i won't be so afraid of partisan political brush back or blow back, i am going to reinstate the rule of law and that is what was missing in the trump administration, and that is what we are facing with all of these insurrectionists and these accusations that continue, to this day, about the steal, the big steel and all that stuff. i think the message is significant for steve bannon but in many respects, the message is even more significant for our institutions defending congress and defending the rule of law which we desperately need in this country. >> so on bannon's case, he really seems to -- flagrant disregard, he does

dan, good seeing you. hitha, same here. if you want a sense where markets are going, depends on eye of the beholder. for example, goldman sachs is optimistic we'll see another strong year for the markets. morgan stanley says not so. the u.s. markets are not the place to be next year. maybe japan, europe, are. split reads from some of the smartest people on the planet who cannot agree where we're going. there you go. more after this. ♪. what's strong with me? what's strong with me? what's strong with me? what's strong with me? with me! with me! what's strong with me? with me! with me. your record label is taking off. but so is your sound engineer. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. indeed instant match instantly delivers quality candidates matching your job description. visit indeed.com/hire this is elodia. she's a recording artist. m 1 of 10 million people that. comcast has connected to affordable internet in the last 10 years. and this is emmanuel, a future recording artist, and one of the millions of students we're connecting throughout the next 10. through projectup, comcast is committing $1 billion so m