dan hart, the ceo of virgin orbit. >> great to be here. morning. >> and an ipo here at the new york stock exchange. cloud enterprise company dynatrace just making its debuts shares now trading still above 25 bucks a share after pricing at $16 that's up more than 58%. joining us here at post 9 is dynatrace ceo, john van siclen first on cnbc, congratulations good to have you >> thank you very much >> so this app performance management in the enterprise, very competitive space seems especially important now that we're in this hybrid cloud and multi-cloud environment. people are trying to manage performance across a whole lot of different platforms >> exactly you know, software is now sort of leading the world as a lot of folks know it's how we bank, how we shop, how we do just about everything. and east applicatithese applica gotten much more complex over the last five years as they've moved to cloud platforms >> tell me about the sales and marketing motion then? because i remember how it used to be kind of pre-cloud, but now it's confusing,