melissa: dan it speaks to a larger theme where we don't celebrate people who are self-made any longer. look at all the grief howardeone who grew up with nothing and he is still apologizing and attacked having so much money, that used to be what america is about, the tremendous opportunity. it is the only place where you can be born with nothing and work your way up to being one of these people on the screen right now. why don't we celebrate that any longer? >> we should and i think actually the average american still does. it is only the political class, or that crazy "new york times" reporter who says we should basically get rid of all billionaires in society. now let me make an important point, if you make big money because you're getting special favors from the government, let's say you're warren buffett, you profited from the tarp bailout or goldman sachs did the same thing, there are bad ways of making money, because you're in effect in bed with the politicians, but bill gates, the schultz guy with starbucks, they're are all sorts of rich people, steve jobs before he passed away, they are only rich because th