then herbert -- dan hurwitz is with us. once again, the government intrudes.onomy down again? >> i don't think they will but that is what i worry about the most. i lived this many times. when you have sequestration, it hurts retail sales. when you shut down the government, it hurts retail sales. never underestimate the government's ability to put it back in recession. if left alone, i think we are fine but unfortunately the people in washington don't leave us alone. >> we will have much more. >> tripping over their feet. let's do a data check. european stocks are modestly higher. not doing a whole lot for u.s. futures. s&p futures up by less than half a point. >> "bloomberg surveillance." we are on bloomberg television and radio. it look for us out of the brand spanking new bloomberg.com. i really like it. really smart new review of bloomberg.com. all of our interviews are out there. i'm tom keene. with me are scarlet fu and alex pettyfer guest post this hour, robert nardelli from cerberus capital management and dan hurwitz is with us, chief executive officer