joining us now to discuss that and other things, democratic congressman dan kildee of michigan.right now, do you think the president is right in light of what happened yesterday to keep that august 31st deadline for withdrawal? >> well, like other members i have had a concern that we not set a deadline that is based on anything other than what it takes to get the americans that are there out, as well as the afghan nationals who supported us, but i'm not going to second-guess the security and intelligence on the ground. we've had classified briefings, i can't get into the detail of that, but suffice to say there was great concern that something like this could take place, there was knowledge that it was possible. what i want to do is make sure that we get as many, if not all those who should get out out as safely as possible and if that means we have to set a deadline, knowing that there may still be some extractions afterward, you know, i think the thing we have to acknowledge is that the last days of our departure were going to be really tough no matter when it would be. so, yo

and dan killed the -- dan kildee .emind the michigan delegation of this, it used to be when i first got elected, i used to tell your husband this as well, we had a higher percentage of autoworkers in delaware then any state in the union including michigan. now, the fact we had a small population -- [laughter] and we had almost 100,000 autoworkers in our state. but i just want to be very straightforward. you know, uaw brung me to the dance, as they say. and i know we are missing someone truly special, a dear friend of all of us, senator carl levin, who passed away last week. carl and i served together for 30 years in the u.s. senate. i think all my colleagues will attest to this, he was one of the most honorable people, most decent people that i have not only served with, but that i have ever known. he was a tireless champion of the american worker and the iconic automobile industry. so he embodied everything that , his beloved michigan and our country represents. respect, dignity, pride. pride in the nation and pride i

the michigan delegation that's here today, senator gary peters, congresswoman debbie dingle, and dan kildeeelegation of this. it used to be when i first got elected and i used to tell your husband this as well, we had a higher percentage of auto workers in delaware than any state in the union including michigan. in fact, we had a very small population and we had almost 100,000 auto workers in our states. i just want to be very straightforward. uaw brung me to the dance, as they say. i know we're missing someone truly special, senator carl levin who passed away last week. carl and i served together for 30 years in the united states senate together. he was one of the most honorable people, most decent people i not only served with but i've ever known. he was a tireless champion of the american worker and the iconic american automobile industry. he embodied everything that his b beloved michigan and our country represents respect, dignity, pride. labor and industry, state and local leaders are all working together to write the next chapter of the american story. as i said before, we're in comp

he's also helped congressman dan kildee who's been very public about the post-traumatic stress he experienced. with us is jim gordon, the author of "transforming trauma, the past to hope and healing." it's great to have you with us. >> good to be with you. >> i know you can't get into the specifics because of privacy issues, but generally speaking when you talk to law enforcement officers who responded to the january 6th attack, what do they tell you? what are they grappling with? . i think it's pretty universal that everybody who was there on january 6th, whether they were capitol police or metropolitan d.c. police is continuing to feel after effects of that event, of the riot, feeling post-traumatic stress. i'm not talking about a psychiatric diagnosis. i'm talking about symptoms that come after we experience a trauma that are widely present, difficulty sleeping, irritability, memories, flashbacks of what happened, sometimes nightmares, sometimes difficulties relating to other people and a kind of distancing from other people. that's pretty much across the board with officers who were there

stabenow, senator gary peters, congresswoman debbie dingell who is automobiles -- [laughter] and dan kildeeichigan delegation of this. it used to be when i was, first got elected, i used to tell your husband in this as well, we hada higher percentage of autoworkers in delaware than any state in the union including, including michigan. now, the fact that we had a very small population -- [laughter] and we had almost 100,000 autoworkers in our state had something to do with it. but i, i just want to be very straightforward, you know? uaw bring me to the dance, as they say. and i also know, and this is someone truly special, senator carl levin, who passed away last week. carl and i served together for 30 years in the united states senate together. he was one of the most -- i think all to my colleagues who knew him will attest to this, one of the most honorable people, most decent people i not only served with, but i've ever known. he was a tireless champion for the american worker, and the iconic american automobile industry. and so he embodied everything that a his beloved michigan and our co