as you pointed out the reason why i really got interested in us at the beginning was because of dan lehrer's involvement he is probably the most accomplished person in the kryptos space aside from suppose you not promote who is the only other person who's. nearly as accomplished as the telecommuter into the area and we sit down there is more complex because this is actually his third blog chain as you mentioned he starts early and big share is you a couple years ago it's still doing fairly well. it's been growing and started seen a couple years ago as well after a bit shares and i got on to garden and you guys gone to that afterwards but i was one of the first people on that and i was really amazed at how well worked and was really designed for ingeniously if that's a word from his or not a genius and i was like well who is this guy and i got to know me it turns out he's a man who calculus as i am many years a lot of the same sort of values and beliefs that i do in complete freedom for humanity and complete free markets and things like that so when i heard the start of you i got very interes