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dan mitchell joins us. what was your reaction to the tax proposal. let's talk about what we heard. the president comes out with his white paper. targeting 3% growth. we got the gdp number which was uni am pressive. -- unimpressive. >> i think the tax reduction will be good for the economy. in cohn described the keynesian approach. lowering the rates is going to be the key to getting more income. proposing a tax cut is the easy part. shepherding it through the process is going to be a real test of the trump administration. maria: this is going to get marked up. paul ryan had a tax plan as well and was at a 20% corporate tax rate. >> i think it's a trial balloon. what is going to be important to watch, what will the bean counters when they do the official revenue estimate before it really plays a key role in what can move forward, a lot of republicans even though they theoretically exist to cut tax, when they see a multi trillion dollar number associated with this tax cut, they are going to say we are not doing much to control government spend. can we just do a big tax cut? that's wh

senior editor jack how, james freeman, "wall street journal," senior fellow at cato institute, dan mitchell. dan, let me start with you. to reach the 3% growth the president's team wanted for 2017, when you consider bad first quarter figures, we have to grow that 4% every quarter. only way to do that with a tax deduction outlined this week, right? >> clearly something has to happen if we want to get growth back up to historical levels. i'm not overly fixated on one bad quarter. who knows, it could be a statistical blip, but look at entire 21st century. we're not getting to average of 2%. that means american families are falling behind. we need more than lower tax rates. deregulation, smaller burden of government spending. we need to turn policy in the right direction. david: james, we need growth. we know from history that one way to get it is by significant tax cuts. what we saw today outlined or this week, was really revolutionary. but the headlines for all the papers saying oh, it will add to the deficit and have all these democrats, where were these people when we were doubling our nati

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dan mitchell joins us. what was your reaction to the tax proposal. let's talk about what we heard.per. targeting 3% growth. we got the gdp number which was uni am pressive. -- unimpressive. >> i think the tax reduction will be good for the economy. in cohn described the keynesian approach. lowering the rates is going to be the key to getting more income. proposing a tax cut is the easy part. shepherding it through the process is going to be a real test of the trump administration. maria: this is going to get marked up. paul ryan had a tax plan as well and was at a 20% corporate tax rate. >> i think it's a trial balloon. what is going to be important to watch, what will the bean counters when they do the official revenue estimate before it really plays a key role in what can move forward, a lot of republicans even though they theoretically exist to cut tax, when they see a multi trillion dollar number associated with this tax cut, they are going to say we are not doing much to control government spend. can we just do a big tax cut? that's why it will take a lot of skill on the part

this and also with us democratic strategist and senior director of research jessica as well as dan mitchell. all right. we've heard it before all to say steve mnuchin told neil cavuto he thought it was going to happen. signed and delivered by august. we know that that's not actually in the cards, evan. now they're saying the end of this year trump's coming out with a program next week. what is the likelihood that this really happens? >> well, i think it's something the likelihood is quite high. we have both chambers of congress and a president that will is find a very good bill. what we need to do is ensure that this tax reform package is achieving real reform and can help all americans and businesses. as well as simplifying the tax code and promoting business growth. one interesting aspect that president trump talked about on the campaign trail, which i stand behind fully is that he talked about how many people who are entrepreneurs are being charged the individual tax rate, and he wanted to bring that tax rate down to 16%. and that benefits millennials entirely because they are the most e

dan scavino blasting andrea mitchell for her interview with rice yesterday, tweeting she's trying toget susan rice through this interview with credibility, and she lied during her interview with dem p.r. person andrea mitchell. what did you make it? >> despite her efforts to make an easy landing for her, i felt susan rice did a terrible job, didn't help herself anne. going back to something you said earlier, eboni, she probably will plead the fifth, but i certainly hope that republicans do manage to call -- >> how do you plead the fifth when you're giving interviews? i'm so confused about this. i don't mean legally how do you plead the fifth? i mean you put this information out, then you don't want to go on record with the american people's elected officials. i'm not saying you can't do it, or why would you do it? >> can i ask a follow-up, harris? what does she lose at this point? she's already out of the administration. >> she's covering for very powerful people. >> a clip from "hardball" last night where they bring race and gender into the conversation. >> lucky us. >> by looking f