. >> dan murphy, a local developer. member of the eastern neighborhoods cac.i want to look at this from a different perspective. we're hearing more about the need for us as an industry in working in partnership with the city that approves -- produced more housing. across all branches there is need. if you would have asked us before this fee deferral program was put on the books to identify impediments' at that time for housing production, across all regions of income, the city structure for paying and the fees would have been toppled the list, frankly. also i want to look at it from the point of view of the state's impact the law. the enabling state legislation which gives rise to these impact fees. technically speaking, the impact is not created until the principal project is built. and if you are building units on site, you are delivering those units are the time to get certificate of occupancy. with this be program, it is much more similar to what we ought to have on the books in any event. i'm a big proponent of seeing that feed deferral program -- become

tavis: like dan quayle and murphy brown. >> rush limbaugh came after us, too. the usual suspects in that kind of conservative fashion. and of course, or creators are christians. what they wanted to single out is the hypocrisy. i am getting a lot of letters and tweets from christian people who are happy to see the hypocrite's called out. tavis: i know you were raised in the south, obviously. were you raised in the church? >> i was. tavis: how does all this strike you, the adding of the hypocrites in the church? >> i think all true believers love to have hypocrisy and route it out. you know, what do they say? sunshine is the best disinfectant. put it out there. call it what it is. satire is always helpful for society. tavis: i want to come back to the broadway thing i mentioned earlier. i am always curious with persons who have been with us for a while, when, where, how? take me back to the moment when you knew that being a thespian leisure calling. >> for me, -- being a lesbian was your calling? >> i grew up in group -- being a thespian was your calling. >> i gr

host: howard kurtz, dan quayle, murphy brown, any relationship? everybody knows what we are talking about. will we know in five years what we are talking about when we say hillary rosen and ann romney? guest: it does not involve a famous fictional newscaster but it does remind me that the culture wars that are going on for a long time -- here we are in 2012 and we are having this discussion. guest: because corporations in america have not yet caught up to having female workers and female employees who can integrate their home life in their work life. i think you would feel -- guest: do all of them understand this? maybe they did not have patience for female employees left to leave early? guest: someone who is at the very top of a corporation just to have kids and was never home. therefore, ok, you just have kids, you are not going to be home. i did not get a chance to be home. there are some like that. there are some who say, i want you to have that choice but in the backs of their mind, they are thinking, i did not have a chance to do that with m

host: howard kurtz, dan quayle, murphy brown, any relationship? everybody knows what we are talking about. will we know in five years what we are talking about when we say hillary rosen and ann romney? guest: it does not involve a famous fictional newscaster but it does remind me that the culture wars that are going on for a long time -- here we are in 2012 and we are having this discussion. guest: because corporations in america have not yet caught up to having female workers and female employees who can integrate their home life in their work life. i think you would feel -- guest: do all of them understand this? maybe they did not have patience for female employees left to leave early? guest: someone who is at the very top of a corporation just to have kids and was never home. therefore, ok, you just have kids, you are not going to be home. i did not get a chance to be home. there are some like that. there are some who say, i want you to have that choice but in the backs of their mind, they are thinking, i did not have a chance to do that with m

more significant than i guess the last time this many words had this much effect, which was dan quayle and murphy browne, which was more -- it was more of an isolated or less general population affected by the remark. i think mika is right. i think of all the things that have happened in the past, say, three or four weeks that might actually affect an independent voter, this argument about women has a much better chance than a lot of others. yeah. >> yeah. >> the administration did everything but put on sack cloth and ashes when she said it, and yet it still seems to be connecting to them despite the fact they have done everything they could do. >> interesting. hilary rosen, who i like very much, and i believe gets it -- she works. she has kids and she works. hilary rosen gets it. >> she stepped in it. and she knows it. >> immediately linked to president obama as though she were valerie jarrett or something. somebody from inside the obama administration. she is a democrat, so president obama must share this point of view. but the reason as mika said it touched off such fury, and especially my wif

. >> reporter: the show's story line collided with reality in 1992, when dan quayle singled out the character of murphyrtance of fathers, by baring a child alone. and calling it just another lifestyle choice. >> you so cleverly weaved it into the show. what was that like for you to be in the spotlight? >> we were in the spotlight for six months. >> and people were expecting so much from the episode back from that speech. >> perhaps it's time for the vice president to expand his definition. and recognize whether by choice or circumstance, families come in all shapes and sizes. ♪ you make me feel you make ♪ >> reporter: a little controversy never got in the way of the behind-the-scenes antics. would you believe that bergen was the class clown. >> the cameras stopped rolling. what was it like working together? >> she never stopped pranking us. getting in the show, around the table. and i would feel water trickling down my face. and i would look up. where is it coming from? and she would get some water in our mouth. and she would stand over you and just drizzle it out. >> i have no memory of that. >> repor