. >> dan pfeifer, thanks very much. back in session if the house sends the bill to keep government open but defund obama care, harry reid sis they will quickly shiite it down. with no one blinking will it be possible to avert midnight madness. chuck todd, host of the daily rundown and msnbc news luke russert. luke, first to you. lets talk about this brinksmanship. what would john boehner say to what dan pfeifer just said, there aren't going to be any conversations because there's nothing to negotiate? >> well, i think the speaker certainly -- they have been playing this hot potato about you didn't call me. you should have called me over the last week, this whole idea the president is on the phone with the head of iran but won't talk with the speaker, that was sort of the back and forth. i do think john boehner would take the president's call as procedurally. i think it's very interesting, though, andrea, 2:00 the house gop conference said to meet on capitol hill. there's where john boehner will learn where his caucus is