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and so i think that's what i think that is what they're trying to do. >> dan pfeiffer, always good toluctant to bet against my now colleagues, david axelrod. so i'm with you thanks, dan thanks. dana now when take your child to work goes hilariously awry, tennessee congressman john rose got up to speak on the house floor yesterday afternoon, but he was quickly upstaged by his very own son with a photo bomb for the ages six-year-old, you see there could be seen smiling, making silly faces. >> there's a good one even sticking out his tongue nearly two-and-a-half. wow, that's that's epic right they're all being done as you can see, while his father, the congressman was giving remarks on a very serious topic, that conviction conviction of the former president of our justice, congressman rosa so took it all in stride. he posted on x. this is what i get for telling my son guy to smile at the cameras for his little brother guy is enjoying his 15 minutes of fame but as staying humble the shining get sam's intention. because then see you looked closely, you couldn't know i was making a symbol o

name is dan pfeiffer. i'm co-host of positive and your moderator for today something which was probably in to the obvious the would like to thank the bernard osher foundation for supporting this event. but before we get started, we have some very important housekeeping reminders, these programs being recorded so ask that you salinger's cell phones for the duration of the so that would never happen out here in san francisco all of you have any questions for jan please out the cards that are on your seats if you're joining us via join us online through the channel now. it is my pleasure to introduce my good friend jen psaki. oh, thank you. thank you. we have known each other for almost 20 years now. yes i know we met at age five or so. that's right. something like five for you two, all for me, whatever. all right. but jen is in me, host and author of say more lessons work at the white house in the world. she served as the white house press secretary, president joe biden, over the course of her career, janice

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it was dan pfeiffer during a podcast interview where he made this exact point. if donald trump gets reelected, you could see thomas and one other justice. justice alito. and he would get at least two more. let's talk about speaker johnson. speaker johnson among the things he wants to do. he wants to theoretically allow trump to levy charges to federal court with the option to issue a self pardon if convicted. olivia, that would totally up and the rule of law in this country. >> yes. and it is shameful to me. somebody that supported the republican party. the party that used to stand for freedom, liberty. the rule of law. those were the champing tenants. we have flipped the script on it. that is a very serious thing. and they are just openly discussing it. yes this is our plan. and you are right. they are all on board. it does not matter that this person created a crime. there was an entire process that happened. a jury of peers that decided on a conviction. these are cases in jonah where there are republicans who are justified and involved in this process. they s

oh, it was dan pfeiffer during a podcast interview for he made this exact point.ld trump gets re-elected you can see thomas and one other justice, alito, retire and he would get at least two more but let's talk about speaker johnson since you invoked congress. speaker johnson, among the things he wants to do, he wants to theoretically allow trump to move state-level charges he is facing in georgia to federal court with the option to then issue a self pardon if convicted. that would totally upend the rule of law in this country. >> yes, and it is shameful to be someone who supported the republican party for so long to watch this, the party that used to stand for freedom, liberty, the rule of law. now we have completely flipped the script on it but that is a very serious thing in the fact that they are just openly discussing it and saying yeah, this is our plan, and it is for a pardon and they are all on board with it. it doesn't matter. this person committed a crime. there was an entire process that happened. it was a jury of his peers who decided on the conviction

dan pfeiffer is the former communications director for barack obama. they are both joining me now.roups but that was the two time trump voters that want trump to be held accountable it sounds like. did you get this sense, because the big leap here is the one who to be held accountable, but are they just turned off by trump? or the whale will they just vote for biden instead? or do we know that by your conversations? >> in this particular group, five out of nine of them, trump voters, five of them were going to vote for biden. i think there are a lot of people that think, somebody that voted for donald trump twice, it seems like a long shot to get them to vote for biden. but i think it is important to understand that for a section of voters who kind of held their nose and voted for donald trump twice and then saw what happened on january 6th, saw donald trump's claims and lies about the election, they were already pretty -- that was sort of a red line for them. they were pretty far out. what the conviction does is it moves them from -- and i hear this a lot from a two time trump vot

>> yeah, my opinion is that dan pfeiffer is right. it is bananas.opping champagne corks, at least in public. they don't need to take victory laps. what they do need to point out is first of all, that this conviction was for interfering in the 2016 election. then he tried to steal the 2020 election. he has already talked about kind of in this kidding not kidding way that he wants three terms in office. if he goes into office with a jail term on the other side of it, he is not coming out. i think there is a very, very clear way to link donald trump's criminality to his threat to the future of american democracy. >> i also think, in addition to the reality anything about it. the only reason i know is because politico wrote a story out it. you are right, he hasn't said anything. do any republicans applauded him by the fact he is following the norms of not attacking supreme court justices? >> i think acpart of the strate as he is an institutional list. he has a hard time bringing himself to attack members of the court even though they are flying insurrec

biden's debate partner, dan pfeiffer, he wrote about this and it's true, and he's not just debating joeoe biden. he has to clear a low bar, frankly, which is get up there and be attentive and assertive for 90 minutes and bypass this bizarre characterization that they have created as somebody that needs to be hopped up on mountain dew or whatever judge they suggest you have to take, and let the focus be on trump. >> it's interesting. we will be talking more about the veep stakes, and donald trump talking about picking his presidential running mate, maybe soon. you know, these are the kinds of things he could do during the debate just to deflect and to have something to talk about that he can talk about confidently. it certainly would not be foreign policy or policy or legislation or politics but picking something like little marco -- >> do you think he will call him that? >> that's what he used to call him, and there marco will be watching the debate and hoping he will be his vice president in terms of a running mate. that's what he will do to distract and buy time just to get through it