in fact, i'm a huge dan quayle fan to this day.sider him a friend and i don't recall that being true as all. if my dad said it is true, geez, i guess it is probably -- since he's about as perfect as i know. that's causing me a deep conflict here but i don't remember that. >> it's so awkward to watch. >> hey, he pea's a big fan. dan quayle. >> is that threading the needle or did you genuinely think he doesn't recall trying to oust the vice president? >> in fair in es to jeb bush it was a long time ago. i have done some other reporting that would suggest once this book comes out i think we're going to be able to get a sense of the biographer john me clam's sources. he obviously talked directly to george h.w. bush about there. it is a pretty classic dodge. "i don't recall." right? >> speaking of -- >> to be fair, there is a lot about that time that i don't recall either. >> it was a certain time ago. >> only on late night msnbc programs do we talk about that. talking about jeb bush's health of the campaign, navigating what everyone ac

dan quayle criticized that. bush said he agreed with that criticism.as a drag on the ticket in '92 and his father should consider replacing him. it's an awkward time for jeb bush to be answering questions because it's going to force him once again to confront what does he want to say about his brother's presidency as well as his father's and we saw how much trouble he had back in the spring, figuring out his position on the iraq war. >> there's a lot gossipy in the book. he calls mary lynn quayle a horse's ass and a pill. he talks about barbara bush's opinion toward nancy reagan here. it's going to be a little buzzy and gossipy. >> partly because what jon meacham has done with his book is go through the diaries that both george h.w. bush and barbara bush kept for many, many years. we're really getting an inside look into what they thought not today but at the time. that's pretty rare for a president and that's pretty good for history. it helps us put aside some of the hindsight, wisdom, which is obviously so easy. >> unvarnished views are rare to get i

now, don't screw it up. >> i'm proud to have dan quayle at my side. >> bush wanted a surprise. he wanted to be, as he put it, bold and generational. the quayle decision was the first decision that bush had really been able to make in a totally independent way, since he went on the ticket with reagan eight years before. >> the big moment at the convention was bush's acceptance speech. here at last, was a chance to define himself in front of the whole nation. >> i want a kinder and gentler nation. >> the speech in new orleans, i think, made him, in many ways. and what was so remarkable at new orleans was, he delivered this speech with power and conviction. >> this is my mission and i will complete it. >> and he used something he didn't like using, which was the first person pronoun. he said, i am that man. >> there was one line in the speech that would be remembered above all the others. >> read my lips, no new taxes. >> he decided to say it. he paid a price for it, forever. >> bush had redefined himself. and now he sought to define michael dukakis. >> i remember that we were 18 p

now, don't screw it up. >> i'm proud to have dan quayle at my side. >> bush wanted a surprise. anted to be as he put it, bold and generational. the quayle decision was the first decision that bush had really been able to make in a totally independent way since he went on the ticket with reagan eight years before. >> the big moment at the convention was bush's acceptance speech. here at last, was a chance to define himself in front of the whole nation. >> i want a kinder and gentler nation. >> the speech in new orleans i think, made him, in many ways. and what was so remarkable at new orleans was, he delivered this speech with power and conviction. >> this is my mission and i will complete it. >> and he used something he didn't like using, which was the first person pronoun. he said i am that man. >> there was one line in the speech that would be remembered above all the others. >> read my lips, no new taxes. >> he decided to say it. he paid a price for it forever. >> bush had redefined himself. and now he sought to define michael dukakis. >> i remember that we were 18 points beh

that can identify that as the root cause in a plan to do that is worthy of our consideration. >> dan quaylehe story of a father and a son and a soccer stadium full of fools. not players. the ones in the stands. ♪ so jill, i know the markets have taken a hit lately. mm hmm. just wanted to touch base. how did edward jones come to manage over $800 billion dollars in assets? huh. okay. here's our latest market outlook. two things that i'd like to point out... through face time when you really need it. so that's interesting, you know we had spoken about that before. it's how edward jones makes sense of investing. suffering from ringing in their ears, there's no such thing as quiet time. but you can quiet the ringing with lipo-flavonoid, the number-one doctor-recommended brand. relieve the ringing with lipo-flavonoid. > >>> it's supposed to be a moment of silence at a soccer game in turkey earlier today. featuring the turkish team and the greek team. the prime ministers were both countries were there. but what don't you hear? you hear any silence? i didn't. we reportedly a lot of shouts, a lot of

he says, in fact, he's a big fan of dan quayle's. >> all right. casey hunt up in new hampshire for us. thanks so much. >>> also making political headlines today, former president george h.w. bush rarely talks about the administrations that have followed, but as we've said, surfacing today, tough criticism at key figures in his son's administration. and now some of them are firing back this afternoon. msnbc's steve kornacki has more on that. steve? >> kate, that's absolutely right. george h.w. bush never talks about his predecessors as a general rule, but especially not his son's george w.'s history. what did george bush sr. make of all of this? now we're starting to find out. there's a new book coming out. its aides called "destiny and power" written by john meachem. we've been talking about it this hour. it's due out next week. the excerpts are leaking out. he does not have harsh words for his own son, surprisingly, defends him. does take issue with some of the rhetoric george w. bush took as president. especially the access of evil speech. bush

>> well, you know, we ended up with dan quayle, so one has to wonder whether donald trump would havemuch of a stepdown. but you know, he's risen in the world. first he wanted to be vice president. now he's appearing on "saturday night live." >> it's going to be very interesting this weekend. do you think anyone interested in this election is going to miss him hosting "snl" with all this controversy swirling about? >> well, i know that i'm going to get in trouble with some of the viewers here, but i'm certainly going to watch. >> absolutely. well, we'll be there, too. bob franken, thank you so much for your input. >> thank you, dara. >>> well, we'll have more. "first look" is ahead, so stay with us. we give you relief from your cold & flu. you give them a case of the giggles. tylenol® cold helps relieve your worst cold & flu symptoms... you can give them everything you've got. tylenol® oh no... (under his breath) hey man! hey peter. (unenthusiastic) oh... ha ha ha! joanne? is that you? it's me... you don't look a day over 70. am i right? jingle jingle. if you're peter pan, you stay yo

susan: dan quayle and marilyn quayle.effrey: that was a place where we see a real tension for president bush in looking back over his presidency because he is, above all things, a gentleman, and would not want to say ill things that people who worked with him and more specifically for him. but, ultimately, i think most historians -- and i think the president has eluded to this from time to time, that was a very strange and perhaps, not helpful choice. there was a lot of discussion of whether quayle should be dumped from the campaign in 1992. he was not bringing anything. that was a place where president bush said, that would be the wrong thing to do, especially as a former vice president. this was simply an area he didn't want to revisit while he was in the presidency. it is definitely one that historians look back and have to shake your head a little bit over that decision. susan: paul, from boston. you are on. >> i would like to know, is there a public school named after barbara bush? susan: thank you very much. there a

listen to dan quayle. >> the alliance is russia, assad, and iran. alliance over there and that's who we're about ready to hook up with, really. do you think that they're going to solve this thing. neil: italy joining them, and france is joining them and we're odd man out. >> that's the alliance, iran, assad, and russia. neil: all right. is he right? former secretary of defense on the phone, always good to have you. and what do you think what he's saying, the world is coalescing around us even it means nefarious characters joining forces. we're odd man out. >> we're only odd man out if we choose to be. the coalition of countries friendly to the united states share our interests in bringing this under control. it is or could be formidable. the idea that adding iran is going to help is absurd and further, emboldening the russians is not a good idea either. they will do what they want to do to suppress isis and that's fine, but we should be organizing our own could he aliahe-- coalition. and i'm wondering if france and italy. and iran is working with ru

dan quayle and second lady marilyn quayle? mr.ngel: that was, i think, a place where we see a real tension for president bush and looking back over his presidency, because that he is, above all things, a gentleman and would not want to say ill things of people who worked with him and, more specifically, for him. but ultimately, i think most historians -- and i think the president has alluded to this from time to time -- would agree that that was a very strained and perhaps not helpful choice. there was a lot of discussion, of course, of whether quayle should be dumped from the campaign in 1992. he wasn't bringing anything to the ticket, they argued. that was a place where president bush said, "no, that would be the wrong thing to do," especially as a former vice president. this is simply an area that he did not want to revisit while in the presidency, but it definitely is one that historians look back on and have to shake their heads a little bit over that decision. ms. swain: paul, boston, you're on. hi, paul. paul: hey, it's pau

remember one thing about the 1998 vice presidential debate, what senator lloyd benson said when dan quayleompared his experience to jfk's. >> senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> here's later in debate, al gore walked up to bush. >> al gore tries to come over and be the bully and get in his face. bush doesn't say anything. just looks at him, smiles, gives him the head wink, and goes on. >> i believe i can. >> that was it. it just -- you know, it just absolutely devastated gore. >> you watch him go. >> yeah. we all revert to our junior high mentality, you know, when our team scored. yeah, you know! >> most people don't know is that bush had been prepared. >> jud gregg, who had played the role of al gore in the debate prep, had seen him pull this trick. he said to bush, be prepared, he's going to come and get in your face. we all dismissed at the time, but sure enough it happened. >> which raises the question how do candidates prepared? these two debate coaches showed me. they prepped president bush for debate. o'donnell later coached mitt romney and michele bachmann. they spent hours trying

remember one thing about the 1988 vice presidential debate when senator lloyd bentsen said when dan quayle compared his experience to jfk. >> senator you are not ted kennedy. stossel: years later and the debate al gore walked up to bush. >> al gore tries to get in the space in your member the moment bush doesn't say anything. he just looks at him, smiles and gives them a head wagging goes on. >> and i believe i can. >> that was it. it is absolutely devastated him. stossel: in you are watching. >> we refer to our junior high mentality when our team scores. stossel: what most people don't know is that bush had been prepared. judd gregg who played the role of al gore in the debate and had seen them pull this trick so he said to bush be prepared is going to get in your face and we all dismissed it at the time. sure enough it happened. stossel: which raises the question how do candidates prepare? these to debate coaches showed us. o'donnell later coached mitt romney and michele bachmann. the coaches spend hours trying to replicate debate moments. >> you have the candidate stand in front of the

former vice president dan quayle addressing what he would do 0 to address the isis threat and john mccain we're not doing to contain this threat. one, two, fbn, fox news, back to back, we got you covered, yeah. >>> hello, everyone, i'm kimberly guilfoyle, along with juan williams, eric bolling, dana perino and jesse waters, it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." >>> we begin with a fox news aletter. breaking news out of germany. officials and residents on alert after bomb threats force the evacuation of two stadiums. the soccer match between germany and the netherlands canceled earlier today. after security officials received quote mounting information about possible attacks. for the latest developments, we bring in fox's rick leventhal live in paris. i understand that police are now

in fact, i'm a huge dan quayle fan to this day.der him a friend and i don't recall that being true at all. >> reporter: did you have any other ideas who might be a better vice president for your dad? >> i don't recall. that's a long time ago but i don't remember that. if my dad said it's true, i guess it's probably, since he's about as perfect as -- >> reporter: he is the greatest man alive, as you say. >> he is. that puts me in deep conflict here. but i don't remember that. >> reporter: i want to also ask you about some of the things he had to say about your brother's administration. he's quoted in the book as talking about particularly dick cheney and donald rumsfeld. and saying that they may have pushed your brother into places that he didn't necessarily think were the best. he also said your brother's rhetoric was at times overheated and created problems citing the axis of evil in particular. what's your view of how dick cheney and donald rumsfeld affected your brother's presidential administration? >> my brother's a big boy. h

of course running in 1992, john meacham's book reporting that jeb bush urged his father to take dan quayle he says he doesn't recall doing any such thing. >> well, it's just fascinating stuff. there is an excerpt from john meacham's book that i wanted to share with our viewers as well, because this sort of gets to the heart of it, that he just became very hardline and very different from the dick cheney i knew and worked with, just iron-ass, this is bush 41 saying about dick cheney, his seeming knuckling under to the real hard-charging guys who want to fight about everything, use force to get our way in the middle east. kathleen, you know the bushes really well, i know them, and dick cheney and don rumsfeld and that whole era, but this is a long-awaited biography. >> my first impulse upon reading some of these quotes and hearing the interview was to think why didn't you speak up sooner but that would not be the bush way. they don't interfere with each other in that respect. i do think that president george w. bush, of course he was guided in some part, to some degree, by the people he brou

wanted >> reporter: one particularly awkward tidbit is that the book says jeb bush tried to get his dan quayle from the ticket when quayle just endorsed jeb bush last week. >> meanwhile, donald rumsfeld had a pretty pointed response saying the former president, the eller president bush is getting on in years. >> reporter: yeah, this probably camp. he said bush 41 is getting on in they may disagree with their father but i don't think either jeb or george w. would particularly appreciate, you know, that kind of a comment from don rumsfeld. >> awkward stuff, jon karl, thanks very much. >>> robin, you'll sit down with hillary clinton on monday. next week to talk with her. >> okay. >>> but now to another bizarre twist in the case of that illinois police lieutenant who staged his own suicide. he considered hiring a hit man, investigators say, to takeke out his illegal activity. abc's alex perez has the story. >> reporter: this morning, new details on l lieutenanjoe gliniewicz's plan to cover up his tracks. investigators say that in addition to embezzling tens of thousands from a police department yo

tidbit is that the book says jeb bush tried to get his father to drop vice president dan abrams dan quayle when he ran for re-election. quayle just endorsed jeb bush last week. >> donald rumsfeld had a pretty pointed response saying the former president, the eller president bush is getting on in years. >> reporter: this probably kit sit well with either bush camp. years and misjudges bush 43. they may disagree with their father but i don't think either jeb or george w. would particularly appreciate, you know, that kind of a comment from don rumsfeld. >> awkward stuff, jon karl, thanks very much. clinton on monday. >> traveling to new hampshire next week to talk with her. >> okay. >>> now to another bizarre twist in that illinois police suicide. he considered hiring a hit man, investigators say, to take out the woman who may have exposed his illegal activity. abc's alex perez has the story. >> reporter: this morning, new details on lieutenant joe gliniewicz's plan to cover up his tracks. investigators say that included embezzling tens of thousands from a police department youth program he d

it was a question to dan quayle whether his relative inexperience that could prepare him for the presidencyarison to which lloyd bentsen responded famously, you're no john kennedy. it was a question to ronald reagan whether he was too old to be president, that prompted, i'm not going to hold my opponent's youth and lack of experience against him. that was all prompted by a moderator asking a question and the candidate famously reacting. so my job is to ee riis it the kind of questions that don't make it about me. but make it about the candidates addressing the issues that the voters want to hear. >> neil, one of the issues is not economic oriented which is in the front page of every newspaper and the lead question of ben carson all week about his own personal story. would you be looking at the headlines and if they have a big story today, how his father, they tried to validate his father's story about his days in cuba. does that have a role in the fox business network debate tonight? >> well, i'm not going to give away questions to you. because you might make another best-selling book into

something that i think that was destined to happen because hip-hop at that time was under attack by dan quayle the governor of the state of florida my friend, federal judge in broward county. you name it everybody was out there. >> host: was it a first amendment case with the supreme court? >> guest: it was a parity case originally. there were two cases and i talk about in the book. one obviously the one that i went to the supreme court, the most important case was the one that my lawyer got overturned in the fourth district court of appeals. not the fourth district court for the court of appeals where the case was whether the music was considered obscene or not. the judge originally said the music was obscene and we had to get it overturned. the music that you hear right now is totally different. >> host: luther campbell one point you write in your book "the book of luke" that you are worth $100 million. did the money come easy? >> guest: did the money come easy? not really. it was tough. just like biggie small's song, more money, no problems. more problems. the more money i got the more prob