experience you had reading these books dan quinn i know dan quinn he describes himself as an animist i would call myself if somebody you know forced me to define i would define myself as something close to a christian pantheist. and i have have you given any thought to. realize definitions and boxes are awkward things but you know how i have. how would you define your spirituality or your worldview or do you even separate the two or do we or. place. well i can't i can't separate my spirituality from my worldview they're one in the same. and yeah i do believe definition is the death of discovery so as soon as i say i'm a buddhist a christian a jew you put me in a box and that defines me and i don't want that box. but you know we all believe all of our face believe in the omnipresence of whatever you call god or the spirit or life and so if if the spirit is omnipresent that means it's everywhere that means it is in that tree this this this creative beautiful force again that we label god it is in my neighbor it's even in my enemy which is why the mystics and again our philosophers have