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>> where in the world is dan scavino.you mentioned the deadline for documents is tomorrow. however, the deadline for depositions is not for another nine days . there is a lot of time to bring him in and depose him. so the timeline while not ideal for house investigators is not stretched too far at this point. if we get to october 14th and still can't find him, that's go to be a bigger problem for them. the indication is that many people that have been subpoenaed are planning to comply. we know that people who were part of the rally organization, for example, sources telling us that they plan to comply. we already know the supervisor, head of security that day, the private security for the event, plans to comply as well. other people are out there taking this very seriously. just an inability to nail down where dan scavino's physical body in this moment, to actually hand him the papers, which is -- you mentioned this is kind of baffling. other people seem to have received these. >> and ubiquitous on social media, can't fin
>> where in the world is dan scavino.you mentioned the deadline for documents is tomorrow. however, the deadline for depositions is not for another nine days . there is a lot of time to bring him in and depose him. so the timeline while not ideal for house investigators is not stretched too far at this point. if we get to october 14th and still can't find him, that's go to be a bigger problem for them. the indication is that many people that have been subpoenaed are planning to comply. we...
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they issued subpoenas last month to mark meadows, dan scavino. dviser steve bannon and former white house and pentagon aid kash patel. multiple sources say the committee has not been able to physically serve the subpoena to scavino. let's bring in whitney wild. whitney, why can they not find dan scavino? i would think that would not be that difficult? >> it's the big question because he's out there on social media tweeting away. but the bigger question here is when are they going to find him? because there's this deadline for october 7th. that was when all of these people were supposed to supply the committee with relevant documents. then he was supposed to come in on october 15th for a deposition -- i should say virtually or in person. and that date is by design. he was one of the last people they wanted to speak with. so other people that were subpoenaed were to come in on the 14th. what the committee is trying to do is get all the information first and then ask these relevant questions later. this is making this timeline a little stickier for t
they issued subpoenas last month to mark meadows, dan scavino. dviser steve bannon and former white house and pentagon aid kash patel. multiple sources say the committee has not been able to physically serve the subpoena to scavino. let's bring in whitney wild. whitney, why can they not find dan scavino? i would think that would not be that difficult? >> it's the big question because he's out there on social media tweeting away. but the bigger question here is when are they going to find...
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has dan -- have you been able to serve dan scavino? because all the reporting we had was that as of now, he has not been served. >> i've seen that reporting, as well. and we're going through the proper steps and i'm not going to get into all the investigative steps and -- and maybe we need to, you know, look in dan scavino's mom's basement for him. but, you know, we'll -- we'll do what we need to do. and we have the appropriate help in order to -- to facilitate that. >> you talked about criminal options. what kind of -- i mean, are you talking about a criminal referral to the department of justice? and what -- what would that -- how would that work? >> that's one of the tools for noncompliance. the committee would have to make a vote and the house would ultimately have to make a vote to send something to department of justice. what we've said and what the chairman has said very clearly is that those are options that are available to the committee. but let's step back. let's wait for the deadline both for material as well as further tes
has dan -- have you been able to serve dan scavino? because all the reporting we had was that as of now, he has not been served. >> i've seen that reporting, as well. and we're going through the proper steps and i'm not going to get into all the investigative steps and -- and maybe we need to, you know, look in dan scavino's mom's basement for him. but, you know, we'll -- we'll do what we need to do. and we have the appropriate help in order to -- to facilitate that. >> you talked...
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a source tells cnn that dan scavino has now been served with a subpoena. the january 6th insurrection wants to appear on capitol hill next week. this is all over a showdown of executive privilege. president biden is rejecting the request to withhold the records from the committee. trump is trying to assert executive privilege to keep documents secret from th
a source tells cnn that dan scavino has now been served with a subpoena. the january 6th insurrection wants to appear on capitol hill next week. this is all over a showdown of executive privilege. president biden is rejecting the request to withhold the records from the committee. trump is trying to assert executive privilege to keep documents secret from th
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is there anything illegal about dan scavino ducking the subpoena? >> there is some rifsk for him. committee will have to decide how far it's willing to push to enforce its subpoenas. one would think the committee gave a lot of thought into issuing the subpoenas to begin with to individuals who were close advisors of the former president. so the question is if dan scavino, or any other potential witness served with a subpoena, if they do not comply, if they evade service of the subpoena, is the committee willing to refer it to the justice department for criminal contempt. and that really is the vehicle that the committee chairman has available to him if he wishes to pursue it. >> this whole thing with dan scavino reminds me of daniel brooks as he evaded a subpoena for months when congressman eric swalwell was trying to serve him with a subpoena after filing a civil suit over the january 6 attack. eventually the process server did catch up with mo brooks, but that was a civil suit. is the process any different with a congressional subpoena? does that have to be hand-delivered? >> th
is there anything illegal about dan scavino ducking the subpoena? >> there is some rifsk for him. committee will have to decide how far it's willing to push to enforce its subpoenas. one would think the committee gave a lot of thought into issuing the subpoenas to begin with to individuals who were close advisors of the former president. so the question is if dan scavino, or any other potential witness served with a subpoena, if they do not comply, if they evade service of the subpoena,...
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they can't even find dan scavino. this doesn't look too promising, does it? >> no, it doesn't.tration taught us all is that he can defy congressional oversight, even when they're wrong on the law, because they know that time is on their side. you know, what's going to happen with these subpoenas is one way or another, it's going to wind up in court. even if the trump allying there have lousy arguments, as i think they do, the courts move slowly. congressional committees, as the chairman said, they don't have all day. the congressional elections are almost, you know, just a little more than a year away. the delay of going to court will serve to interfere with the committee's investigations and stop this testimony, even if they're wrong on the law. >> walsh us through how it will work, jeffrey, if the committee decides to charge them with criminal contempt. well, first of all, that is a process that the committee has to go through. that takes a certain amount of time. at that point it gets referred to the justice department. the justice department has to decide whether to go forw
they can't even find dan scavino. this doesn't look too promising, does it? >> no, it doesn't.tration taught us all is that he can defy congressional oversight, even when they're wrong on the law, because they know that time is on their side. you know, what's going to happen with these subpoenas is one way or another, it's going to wind up in court. even if the trump allying there have lousy arguments, as i think they do, the courts move slowly. congressional committees, as the chairman...
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dan scavino, he's the fourth of the first batch of trump aides to get subpoena.oenas are trying to figure out what they will do. steve bannon and mark meadows and kash patel. they've given different responses to the committee that's trying to probe into january 6th. steve bannon wants to claim executive privilege even though the legal scholars say that's not going to work. a court battle may be in the future there. mark meadows and kash patel, lawmakers said they have engaged constructively with their attorney. no decisions yet on what will be or won't be turned over. so it's a slow process. every week we come back and give the latest. last time it was subpoenas. this time it's a response. we'll see if we go to court the next time. it takes a long time to work its way through. this is a break through and the first step where they try to get their hands on these documents and get some depositions too. >> it was notable you said these four are part of that first batch to receive subpoenas, so more is coming around the corner. so president trump is trying to claim e
dan scavino, he's the fourth of the first batch of trump aides to get subpoena.oenas are trying to figure out what they will do. steve bannon and mark meadows and kash patel. they've given different responses to the committee that's trying to probe into january 6th. steve bannon wants to claim executive privilege even though the legal scholars say that's not going to work. a court battle may be in the future there. mark meadows and kash patel, lawmakers said they have engaged constructively...
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but the fact that they can't find dan scavino makes it stickier. they are looking for communications with the white house on january 6th and character information about the former president. as we know, he was a confidante for many, many, many years before he even assumed the presidency. there's a wealth of information they're hoping to learn from him. these deadlines are by design. what they were hoping to do is get the papers first, review the relevant information, and then ask informed questions. if they can't do that, it makes these people coming in for depositions a lot more difficult. you want to know as much information before the actual interview as possible so you can try to nail down people on specifics. >> whitney wild, keep us posted the next several hours. >> donald trump per usual saying down is up and up is down. a colorful and fact-challenged statement. >> the unselect committee of partisan democrats and two very weak and pa theltic rinos, should come to the conclusion after spending many millions of dollars, that the real insurrect
but the fact that they can't find dan scavino makes it stickier. they are looking for communications with the white house on january 6th and character information about the former president. as we know, he was a confidante for many, many, many years before he even assumed the presidency. there's a wealth of information they're hoping to learn from him. these deadlines are by design. what they were hoping to do is get the papers first, review the relevant information, and then ask informed...
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the sleep number 360 smart bed is on sale now. >>> bolo, be on the lookout for dan scavino, trump's whitetaff. congress can't find scavino to physically serve him with a subpoena to come and testify. he's one of four trump aides subpoenaed by the committee nvrging the january 6th attack on the capitol, in addition to other trump allies, involved in planning the rally that day. let's bring in elliot williams to figure out where this goes. the elusive scavino, we know what's happening here, this is not uncommon. the only way to quash the subpoena is if there's no true legislative purpose behind it. there is. what do you think happens next? >> you're absolutely right, chris. the problem, if he has a basis -- let's go into fantasy land for a moment, and he has an argument that this is illegitimate, there's a way to challenge it, you go to court. you don't just take your ball and your bat and your documents and go home. it is a disrespect of the process and congress and we have seen it frankly before, and we're seeing it again here. >> but what do you think it suggests about what we're going t
the sleep number 360 smart bed is on sale now. >>> bolo, be on the lookout for dan scavino, trump's whitetaff. congress can't find scavino to physically serve him with a subpoena to come and testify. he's one of four trump aides subpoenaed by the committee nvrging the january 6th attack on the capitol, in addition to other trump allies, involved in planning the rally that day. let's bring in elliot williams to figure out where this goes. the elusive scavino, we know what's happening...
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for example, mark meadows and dan scavino, and kash patel? soon as we decide we're get getting nowhere. if we feel like we're getting stalled for time, we won't hesitate to move forward with contempt. but if we can work it out and secure their testimony without having to bring up a criminal contempt charge, that is certainly our preference. >> congressman, thanks so much for joining us. >> there's more breaking news we're following here in "the situation room." a major development in the gabby petito homicide case. the fbi now confirming moments ago that the remains of her fiance, brian laundrie, have been found. nah, a stormy day. classical music plays. um uh, brass band, new orleans. ♪ ♪ she drives hands free... along the coast. make it palm springs. ♪ cadillac is going electric. if you want to be bold, you have to go off-script. experience the all-electric cadillac lyriq. imagine a world where we have the tools to sell things that mean something. like a sunscreen made for melanated skin that blends in. prove that things don't have to be th
for example, mark meadows and dan scavino, and kash patel? soon as we decide we're get getting nowhere. if we feel like we're getting stalled for time, we won't hesitate to move forward with contempt. but if we can work it out and secure their testimony without having to bring up a criminal contempt charge, that is certainly our preference. >> congressman, thanks so much for joining us. >> there's more breaking news we're following here in "the situation room." a major...
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the select committee hasn't been able to find dan scavino, but the deadline is looming.e you hoping the committee gets from these trump allies? >> hi, thanks, don. thanks for having me on. i think the key take away for folks at home here is if you think the danger and donald trump and his key allies and cronies is gone not only to the american people but to our democracy writ large you are sorely mistaken. they clearly don't want to say what they know. they're clearly avoiding the legal process here. and even more so than that they continue to scoff at rule of law. if we don't have rule of law in america, we have nothing. we certainly can't have a democracy. and here we have in essence president trump, a former president explicitly ordering his top advisor to not comply with a lawful, legal subpoena. if that doesn't trouble folks i don't know what will. >> congressman, are you concerned that the committee won't have enough substantive findings about the truth before we're in the middle of another campaign season? >> there's a lot of information the committee has already
the select committee hasn't been able to find dan scavino, but the deadline is looming.e you hoping the committee gets from these trump allies? >> hi, thanks, don. thanks for having me on. i think the key take away for folks at home here is if you think the danger and donald trump and his key allies and cronies is gone not only to the american people but to our democracy writ large you are sorely mistaken. they clearly don't want to say what they know. they're clearly avoiding the legal...
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house to the president during the period that we're talking about. >> he wasn't. >> you could say dan scavino was or mark meadows was. steve bannon is not. the other reason this is a problem is what exactly are they asking bannon about? what are they asking mr. meadows and mr. scavino about? they are asking about what they witnessed and heard on the days leading up to it. those are not the issues of the president's official actions. these are moments before an insurrection. a storming of our capitol and attack on democracy. that is a big issue. you know, what is really important here is that bannon is following the former president's lead. he is using the president's former president's shield to delay the committee and whatever happens to him and whatever action or punishment is taken by the committee, meadows, scavino and patel can expect to feel the same. >> so, we know, carol, president biden is not going to invoke executive privilege. we know the 1/6 committee chairman is talking about holding the trump people in criminal contempt. are you sensing a tougher stance from the democratic part
house to the president during the period that we're talking about. >> he wasn't. >> you could say dan scavino was or mark meadows was. steve bannon is not. the other reason this is a problem is what exactly are they asking bannon about? what are they asking mr. meadows and mr. scavino about? they are asking about what they witnessed and heard on the days leading up to it. those are not the issues of the president's official actions. these are moments before an insurrection. a...
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we'll take the case to dan scavino's attorney tonight. he's here on the show. he's the long-time trump loyalist, scavino, who evaded his subpoena until congress finally caught up with him. first let's bring in a key member of the committee, congresswoman stephanie murphy of florida, january 6 select committee member. it's good to have you. welcome to "prime time." >> great to be with you, chris. >> first the idea of voting for bannon to be held in contempt. was it a close call for you? >> it was not a close call at all. after all, the mission of the january 6 select committee is to secure all of the facts around the january 6 insurrection and to move forward. clearly steve bannon is somebody who has information about the planning of and the day of january 6, and he was given an opportunity to present his side of the story to the january 6 committee, and he chose not to. so we are moving forward as we intended to, which is that this committee means business, and nobody is above the law. so we are going to use criminal contempt to respond to his lack of willingne
we'll take the case to dan scavino's attorney tonight. he's here on the show. he's the long-time trump loyalist, scavino, who evaded his subpoena until congress finally caught up with him. first let's bring in a key member of the committee, congresswoman stephanie murphy of florida, january 6 select committee member. it's good to have you. welcome to "prime time." >> great to be with you, chris. >> first the idea of voting for bannon to be held in contempt. was it a close...
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and the committee didn't say anything about dan scavino who we have reported they've been having a difficult time serving the subpoena. but what the committee did make very clear is that they're going to do everything that they can to enforce the subpoenas and they're going to use the law enforcement backing at their disposal to do so. they say in a statement, quote, we will not allow any witness to defy a lawful subpoena or attempt to run out the clock. and we will swiftly consider advancing a criminal contempt of congress referral. now that referral is not easy. it requires a vote of the entire house of representatives before being referred to the department of justice to be executed. and that statement about running out the clock, jake, is also very important. because the select committee only has a certain amount of time before the midterm elections to issue a report on their investigation and it seems at least part of the strategy of trump and his allies is to make this process as lengthy and difficult as possible. >> thank you so much. evan, former president trump says that he is going
and the committee didn't say anything about dan scavino who we have reported they've been having a difficult time serving the subpoena. but what the committee did make very clear is that they're going to do everything that they can to enforce the subpoenas and they're going to use the law enforcement backing at their disposal to do so. they say in a statement, quote, we will not allow any witness to defy a lawful subpoena or attempt to run out the clock. and we will swiftly consider advancing a...
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so, how do you weigh him against dan scavino in terms of loyalty to donald trump and that which he maye been involved in on the 6th? >> there's loyalty to different levels here, but i think in terms of steve bannon, let's think about it. it's also a business proposition for him, right? he has a loyal following. he is one of the biggest grifters of fund-raising off of a lot of -- he runs this really alarming sort of war room, i would say, that spreads conspiracy theories, and he fund raises off it so he's trying to protect his reputation, i would say, as well, in terms of trying to comply because he'll lose that loyal following if he turns on trump. so i think both of these individuals have a certain loyalty, possibly for different reasons, but they're certainly both a part of this entire endeavor. >> what do you make of patel and meadows allegedly complying to some degree, at least, at this point? they said they're working, so far, with the committee. >> look, i think all of these individuals, especially kash and mark, know exactly what trump is and what he's capable of. he is loyal to
so, how do you weigh him against dan scavino in terms of loyalty to donald trump and that which he maye been involved in on the 6th? >> there's loyalty to different levels here, but i think in terms of steve bannon, let's think about it. it's also a business proposition for him, right? he has a loyal following. he is one of the biggest grifters of fund-raising off of a lot of -- he runs this really alarming sort of war room, i would say, that spreads conspiracy theories, and he fund...
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the committee, though, still can't find dan scavino two weeks after issuing him a subpoena. cial media guru of the trump administration. obviously, scavino is keeping himself scarce. not necessarily easy to do but that's the strategy here. how unusual is that? and will it work? >> well, it's bizarre. but it's also deliberate. let's be clear about what this is. this is the delay strategy. it is a strategy, and it is intentional. and the thing is, erin, it has worked for donald trump and his people before. if you look at when congress tried to investigate after the mueller report when they tried to investigate the first impeachment over ukraine, these things got bogged down in the courts. and they took months, even years. and as a result, congress really got next to nowhere with those investigations. so it seems clear this is what scavino is trying to do if he was willing to testify or even play ball, he could easily make himself available. and so again, congress needs to be ready to fight here, and they need to be ready to move very quickly because trump and his people are try
the committee, though, still can't find dan scavino two weeks after issuing him a subpoena. cial media guru of the trump administration. obviously, scavino is keeping himself scarce. not necessarily easy to do but that's the strategy here. how unusual is that? and will it work? >> well, it's bizarre. but it's also deliberate. let's be clear about what this is. this is the delay strategy. it is a strategy, and it is intentional. and the thing is, erin, it has worked for donald trump and...
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a source tells cnn that dan scavino, a top aide to former president trump, has now been served with a covering these developments for us. what more do we know about the subpoena being served and received? >> reporter: fredricka, how are you? this is the fourth of four subpoenas to some of president trump's strongest supporters and closest allies from his time in the white house. it's dan ska cavino, a deputy cf of staff and the brains behind a lot of his activities on social media. the latest report is the subpoena was served at mar-a-lago, scavino wasn't there, but he is in possession of the subpoena. we'll have to start working with his attorney to formulate a response to the committee because they want all kinds of documents, communications, emails, and as you said,
a source tells cnn that dan scavino, a top aide to former president trump, has now been served with a covering these developments for us. what more do we know about the subpoena being served and received? >> reporter: fredricka, how are you? this is the fourth of four subpoenas to some of president trump's strongest supporters and closest allies from his time in the white house. it's dan ska cavino, a deputy cf of staff and the brains behind a lot of his activities on social media. the...
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over the weekend, cnn learned former trump aide dan scavino was served at mar-a-lago.y're threatening to pursue charges against steve bannon if he didn't comply. now there's a new scathing letter from a capitol police whistleblower accusing leadership of inaction and failing to share vital intelligence with other top officers before, during and after the deadly riot. >> reporter: growing signs of democracy in peril. top republicans doublg down on the big lie as they turned to the 2022 midterms. on sunday, the number two house republican, steve scalise, refused to acknowledge president biden was legitimately elected. >> if you look at a number of states that didn't follow their state past laws. >> reporter: republican senator chuck grassley appeared alongside trump at a rally in iowa saturday. >> so if i didn't accept the endorsement of a person that's got 91% of the republican voters in iowa, i wouldn't be too smart. i'm smart enough to accept that endorsement. >> reporter: in february, grassley rejected the big lie in a statement saying, the reality is, he lost. he br
over the weekend, cnn learned former trump aide dan scavino was served at mar-a-lago.y're threatening to pursue charges against steve bannon if he didn't comply. now there's a new scathing letter from a capitol police whistleblower accusing leadership of inaction and failing to share vital intelligence with other top officers before, during and after the deadly riot. >> reporter: growing signs of democracy in peril. top republicans doublg down on the big lie as they turned to the 2022...
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today is the deadline for mark meadows, steve bannon, kash patel and dan scavino. so these four people, subpoenas not just for testimony but also documents. what are the chances that any of them comply? >> right now it seems highly unlikely they will be cooperating with the committee. what we will see is weather the committee is going to hold these witnesses in contempt and if they will follow through for criminal enforcement here. they said if these four allies of trump, if they don't come forward and bring their documents, they could face criminal ram tpebgzs here. and so we're going the see whether or not they're going to hold true to that. but right now it doesn't seem like they're going to be implying. >> so how much does that slow things down? because clearly that's the procedure or sort of the tactic that we've seen in the past with trump administration officials. >> right. we have seen them slow roll things before. so of course this would slow things down. but the committee wants to move fast. and they've also shown they really want to look at everything. i
today is the deadline for mark meadows, steve bannon, kash patel and dan scavino. so these four people, subpoenas not just for testimony but also documents. what are the chances that any of them comply? >> right now it seems highly unlikely they will be cooperating with the committee. what we will see is weather the committee is going to hold these witnesses in contempt and if they will follow through for criminal enforcement here. they said if these four allies of trump, if they don't...
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hicks, sarah matthews who was an assistant press aide, mark meadows, of course the chief of staff, dan scavino, the president's top aide. pat cipollone, the white house counsel, mark short, former vice president pence's chief of staff, several of the highest of highest officials in the white house on that day, that is what these documents relate to, and now the white house is saying they are not going to exert executive privilege over those documents. >> over to you on the subpoenas, and the letter from the committee, their response. walk us through what we're learning through that letter, and what the chair and vice chair are saying. >> yesterday was the deadline for a handful of these trump loyalists to hand over documents, folks including mark meadows, dan scavino, steve bannon, and it became very clear that steve bannon was not planning to comply either with a request for documents or testimony, here's a portion of the lawyer that his attorney sent yesterday. it says the kexecutive privilegs belong with president trump, we must honor his executive privilege. steve bannon, though he wasn't
hicks, sarah matthews who was an assistant press aide, mark meadows, of course the chief of staff, dan scavino, the president's top aide. pat cipollone, the white house counsel, mark short, former vice president pence's chief of staff, several of the highest of highest officials in the white house on that day, that is what these documents relate to, and now the white house is saying they are not going to exert executive privilege over those documents. >> over to you on the subpoenas, and...
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. >> what about dan scavino. the committee didn't say much about him? >> they didn't say much about him. nbc news, we reached out to him and have received no response. you know, to quote our friends over at politico playbook, they said they got a tip that he was spotted at an event in new york yesterday, i believe it was. so he's around. the committee didn't mention him and we checked in and asked why they did not reference him in the statement when they referenced those not complying, and they said no comment at this time so we don't know what is going on with scavino. >> jake sherman, i will not interrupt you. i have been working on that. >> it's your show. i defer to him on the department of justice but i think that would be an easy vote in the realm of not easy votes the house takes these days, that would be an easy vote. i have to imagine again, the administration seems to view this as extraordinary circumstances, and i wonder if that will extend to the department of justice as well. >> interesting point. mike memoli, if you are with us, talk about
. >> what about dan scavino. the committee didn't say much about him? >> they didn't say much about him. nbc news, we reached out to him and have received no response. you know, to quote our friends over at politico playbook, they said they got a tip that he was spotted at an event in new york yesterday, i believe it was. so he's around. the committee didn't mention him and we checked in and asked why they did not reference him in the statement when they referenced those not...
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dan scavino, though, no word on dan scavino. the strategy in trump world, as you've said, is to delay at all costs. so considering when you think about what happens with this committee, is there a best path for them to force these aides to comply, or are they at the mercy of nothing? >> i mean i'm afraid there is not a great path here because the legal system does not work quickly. even if, as appears likely, the committee seeks a criminal contempt charge through the justice department, that's a legal proceeding, and that has to go to the district court. and then once a district court hears briefingnd hears arguments and writes a decision, that goes to the circuit court. and then after there's briefing and argument and a decision in the circuit court, there's the potential for petition to the supreme court. i mean this is a months-long process. but it is worth just saying, don, that it is so outrageous that steve bannon, who is a non-governmental actor, who has -- you know, who couldn't conceivably assert executive privilege, he
dan scavino, though, no word on dan scavino. the strategy in trump world, as you've said, is to delay at all costs. so considering when you think about what happens with this committee, is there a best path for them to force these aides to comply, or are they at the mercy of nothing? >> i mean i'm afraid there is not a great path here because the legal system does not work quickly. even if, as appears likely, the committee seeks a criminal contempt charge through the justice department,...
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but former deputy chief of staff dan scavino, the man behind many of trump's tweets, at least when he was on twitter, he can't be found to be served. he, mark meadows, kash patel and steve bannon fight the subpoenas, then the ball is in the committee's hands to enforce them in court. >> if they continue to disregard the subpoenas, i'm going to highly encourage the authorities to pursue criminal contempt. if you refuse a subpoena, there are consequence for you. so there darn well should be consequence for the president and his top enablers and cronies here. >> in trump's upside down reality, the real insurrection took place on election day 2020, and not january 6, when dozens of police officers of course were brutally attacked. appeasers like nikki haley and mike pence are trying to mend fences with the former president. more now from ryan nobles on capitol hill. >> reporter: christine and laura, we are approaching the first round of compliance for the subpoenas issued by the january 6 select committee. midnight on thursday is when documents are expected to be turned over by that group
but former deputy chief of staff dan scavino, the man behind many of trump's tweets, at least when he was on twitter, he can't be found to be served. he, mark meadows, kash patel and steve bannon fight the subpoenas, then the ball is in the committee's hands to enforce them in court. >> if they continue to disregard the subpoenas, i'm going to highly encourage the authorities to pursue criminal contempt. if you refuse a subpoena, there are consequence for you. so there darn well should be...
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so far dan scavino's lawyer says he's not ready to testify. how likely is it that there will be a vote for a criminal contempt referral for dan scavino as well? >> well, we can't get ahead of ourselves. there will be additional discussions. but let's just say this. the law is clear. there's no absolute immunity even for the lawyer for the white house. don mcgahn case made that clear. i asked the attorney general when he was before the judiciary committee yesterday whether in his view that was still good law. and he said it is. it's still good law. we don't have absolute immunity. if you have a privilege that you want to claim, you have to come into the committee and claim it. let's take it out of the executive privilege area and say that you have a fifth amendment right not to incriminate yourself. you have to go in and assert that claim for each question and for all you know, the congress may grant you immunity from prosecution. then you'd have to answer the question. you can't just say to the congress, no thank you. that's not what a subpoen
so far dan scavino's lawyer says he's not ready to testify. how likely is it that there will be a vote for a criminal contempt referral for dan scavino as well? >> well, we can't get ahead of ourselves. there will be additional discussions. but let's just say this. the law is clear. there's no absolute immunity even for the lawyer for the white house. don mcgahn case made that clear. i asked the attorney general when he was before the judiciary committee yesterday whether in his view that...
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we are told dan scavino has asked for some more time this is a process that is playing out, actually rather rapidly. congress usually moves quite slowly but in congress speak this is going very quickly another committee source has told me that while these are the high profile people there are a lot of other subpoenas that have been issued and a lot of other data they are trying to obtain from telecommunications and social media companies this is just one facet >> thank you we'll follow the developments from capitol hill as the votes ahead. live updates as they happen. >>> a notorious haitian gang is reportedly demanding $17 million in ransom for the release of a group of american and canadian missionaries $1 million per hostage that is according to the reporting of "the wall street journal. it says haitian police and the fbi are in contact with the kidnappers police say the gang abducted the group on saturday. at the time they were leaving an orphanage in port-au-prince. they say the group of 17 hostages includes five children. nbc's sam brock now. we're learning more about these kid
we are told dan scavino has asked for some more time this is a process that is playing out, actually rather rapidly. congress usually moves quite slowly but in congress speak this is going very quickly another committee source has told me that while these are the high profile people there are a lot of other subpoenas that have been issued and a lot of other data they are trying to obtain from telecommunications and social media companies this is just one facet >> thank you we'll follow...
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dan scavino and now cnn has learned trump may try to block the january 6 committee from getting information from those subpoenaed. lie, deny, and now defy. remember, we define that as the triple play of trumpery. according to "the washington post" a trump attorney instructed his former advisers not to comply with congressional investigators and with good reason. they clearly may have damaging information. the senate judiciary committee just made that obvious in a new report about january 6th titled "subverting justice." nearly 400 pages and they have the receipts. we'll give you some of the biggest headlines tonight but i argue that the obvious headlines about the main report aren't the real thing to focus on. the rebuttal from the gop is what you must look at. why? because those who empowered this, ignored it, also empowered it, but all of them collectively. they are still in power and the rebuttal is proof that the big lie will not die. in their defense of trump you don't just see a disservice to justice but clear proof they are in service to him and his lies about the election. starting
dan scavino and now cnn has learned trump may try to block the january 6 committee from getting information from those subpoenaed. lie, deny, and now defy. remember, we define that as the triple play of trumpery. according to "the washington post" a trump attorney instructed his former advisers not to comply with congressional investigators and with good reason. they clearly may have damaging information. the senate judiciary committee just made that obvious in a new report about...
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this is an aide named dan scavino.was elevated to deputy white house chief of staff. he dealt with twitter and the internet, and now has gone missing entirely. the house committee says they can't physically serve him under the rules with a legal subpoena because they can't even find him. the committee says they're also preparing for trump and his aides to be defiant. trump is not backing down. he recently told a podcast how the real insurrection was the election. >> the insurrection took place on november 3rd, when they rigged the election, the big insurrection, the crime of the century. that took place on november 3rd and not on january 6th. >> well, what can you say, it's word play. it won't beat subpoenas. this goes beyond just who's the loser of the election, or the sore loser of the election but why donald trump has reasons to worry. people around him are talking. the house committee, starting interviews, and one of the first is trump's number two at the d. o.j. another obscure person who vaulted into, you know, t
this is an aide named dan scavino.was elevated to deputy white house chief of staff. he dealt with twitter and the internet, and now has gone missing entirely. the house committee says they can't physically serve him under the rules with a legal subpoena because they can't even find him. the committee says they're also preparing for trump and his aides to be defiant. trump is not backing down. he recently told a podcast how the real insurrection was the election. >> the insurrection took...
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as for dan scavino, his is a different situation because as you'll remember, we broke the news that they were having a difficult time serving him with a subpoena. they were only able to serve that subpoena last friday so because of that delay with the subpoena, they've also delayed the date of his deposition. now, it's not clear when these depositions have been postponed to, but keep in mind, even though the committee has given them this grace, they have also said that they're not going to fool around. this is kind of the situation they ran into with jeffery clarke, the former doj official whom they subpoenaed yesterday. they were in negotiations with clark to come to an agreement. when he didn't comply, that's when they slapped the subpoena on. so the postponements are short for now but they could become criminal contempt down the road if they don't find areas to agree on finding -- getting the information they're looking for. >> all right, ryan nobles for us an capitol hill with the breaking news. thank you. >>> let's bring in now kim wehle, a law professor at the university of baltimo
as for dan scavino, his is a different situation because as you'll remember, we broke the news that they were having a difficult time serving him with a subpoena. they were only able to serve that subpoena last friday so because of that delay with the subpoena, they've also delayed the date of his deposition. now, it's not clear when these depositions have been postponed to, but keep in mind, even though the committee has given them this grace, they have also said that they're not going to fool...
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i don't know if you saw chris at dan scavino's, attorney on tonight. so my question is representative adam schiff saying that he didn't know if mark meadows, trump's former chief of staff is acting in good faith when it comes to engagement with the committee. are meadows along with kash patel and dan scavino, that's why i mentioned the attorneys, are they cooperating? and what can you tell us about these conversations, if anything? >> i'm not involved in the day to day negotiations with these people, but the lawyers have told us they are engaging with the committee. so they are in an explorative deliberations and discussions with them about what they will turn over and when they will testify. something that steve bannon never did. but the point at which it's clear that they're just playing games or they don't intend to participate, again, we will go back to the full panoply of sanctions we have for people who are disobeying a subpoena of the u.s. congress. it has the same authority as a subpoena from a court. >> yeah. i had so much i wanted to ask you
i don't know if you saw chris at dan scavino's, attorney on tonight. so my question is representative adam schiff saying that he didn't know if mark meadows, trump's former chief of staff is acting in good faith when it comes to engagement with the committee. are meadows along with kash patel and dan scavino, that's why i mentioned the attorneys, are they cooperating? and what can you tell us about these conversations, if anything? >> i'm not involved in the day to day negotiations with...
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washington post" report that a trump lawyer told his former advisers, mark meadows, kash patel, dan scavinoeve bannon. is this obstruction of congress? >> yeah, don. this is going to come down to a matter of political will. how much political will does congress and the committee have, and will doj show some backbone here? look, it's 11:00. these documents are due in an hour at midnight. i don't think mark meadows is going to be walking his documents into the capitol. what does the committee do? if it feels like we've been here before, we have because donald trump told us two years he was going to, quote, fight all the subpoenas. as a result, he's managed to push off all sorts of congressional oversight. is congress going to learn lessons? are they going to get into court tomorrow to try to compel this from a judge? are they going to send it to doj? and if they send it to doj, what is merrick garland going to do? it's a federal crime to commit contempt of congress. it hasn't been charged in many, many years but we're also in unprecedented times right now. >> there's the senate judiciary repo
washington post" report that a trump lawyer told his former advisers, mark meadows, kash patel, dan scavinoeve bannon. is this obstruction of congress? >> yeah, don. this is going to come down to a matter of political will. how much political will does congress and the committee have, and will doj show some backbone here? look, it's 11:00. these documents are due in an hour at midnight. i don't think mark meadows is going to be walking his documents into the capitol. what does the...
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on this committee now postponing planned interviews with three other trump aids, mark meadows, dan scavino, kash patel because a committee aid says a continued engagement really with the investigation. but at this point, lester, it seems like lawmakers may be hoping this bannon vote sends a signal to these other witnesses that they've got to get onboard, they've got to cooperate or else there will be consequences >> okay, hallie. thanks so much >>> a disaster unfolding tonight in taiwan where at least 46 people were killed when a 13 story building turned into an inferno. dozens more were injured. residents said they heard an explosion and fire and smoke engulfed the building. neighbors said many poor, elderly and disabled people lived there. >>> and a deadly day in the streets of beirut. at least six people killed in some of the worst street violence in the lebanon capitol in years the armed clashes broke out during protests of the investigation into the massive explosion in the port of beirut in 2020 that killed more than 200 people in just 60 seconds, the water crisis in michigan and new
on this committee now postponing planned interviews with three other trump aids, mark meadows, dan scavino, kash patel because a committee aid says a continued engagement really with the investigation. but at this point, lester, it seems like lawmakers may be hoping this bannon vote sends a signal to these other witnesses that they've got to get onboard, they've got to cooperate or else there will be consequences >> okay, hallie. thanks so much >>> a disaster unfolding tonight in...
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their depositions along with the one for dan scavino have been postponed but could still happen. >> this is interesting. president biden is out with his strongest statement yet on all of this. nbc's julie tsirkin is on capitol hill and we begin with you. this is a lengthy process. how confident are committee members about making it through tuesday? >> reporter: good morning, guys, they're very confident. they see this as their only shot to gather all of the facts and find out what the former president knew and did on january 6th and they want to get this look at what he did through the lens of his closest aides, mark meadows, cash patel, dan scavino and steve bannon. of course who better than bannon to gather all of the facts from and really get the full picture in part because he crafted former president trump's campaign platform. also he was credited with being one of the organizers of the stop the steal rally that led to violence in this capitol i'm standing in. but he's evaded congress before, and members on the house select committee are very familiar with that both in the first imp
their depositions along with the one for dan scavino have been postponed but could still happen. >> this is interesting. president biden is out with his strongest statement yet on all of this. nbc's julie tsirkin is on capitol hill and we begin with you. this is a lengthy process. how confident are committee members about making it through tuesday? >> reporter: good morning, guys, they're very confident. they see this as their only shot to gather all of the facts and find out what...
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it finally found dan scavino after days of searching or at least got close enough to serve him with acess server showed up at former president trump's mar-a-lago resort in florida. scavino was home in new york but asked a staff member at mar-a-lago to accept the subpoena for him. so the question tonight is, what kind of answers will the committee get, if any, from scavino or three other key players from the trump universe? the deadline for them to hand over documents was thursday. the deadline for depositions is this friday. former aides mark medicine do meadows and kash patel are said to be engaging with the committee. it could be harder to get information given trump's latest attempts to silence the committee and stymie his one-time staffers at trying to claim executive privilege. the biden white house announced it will not assert that privilege on the first batch of trump white house documents the committee wants. trump has less than a month to fight that decision in court. and he may be preparing to do just that with a letter to the national archives friday, hoping to block at lea
it finally found dan scavino after days of searching or at least got close enough to serve him with acess server showed up at former president trump's mar-a-lago resort in florida. scavino was home in new york but asked a staff member at mar-a-lago to accept the subpoena for him. so the question tonight is, what kind of answers will the committee get, if any, from scavino or three other key players from the trump universe? the deadline for them to hand over documents was thursday. the deadline...
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steve bannon, mark meadows, dan scavino, kash patel.t just about the days of the insurrection. it's about the days prior. all of the pressure points. that's what the committee clearly wants to find out. because those are the scenes they reference from our book. >> laura, you're shaking your head in agreement here. i'm wondering the stalling tactic that they're doing. so the select committee can't get there, can't serve them and they're just not complying. is there any way to expedite this through the courts? >> well, you know, the idea of being able to have, unlike last time when they had the blueprint of how to thumb your nose at a congressional subpoena through protracted litigation, they had the benefit of having a department of justice led by a trump appointee, several trump appointees, by the way. now you have a justice department that's already talked about not wanting to assert executive privilege, an administration who says they're not going to be likely other than a case by case basis extend any privilege that's not owed to a f
steve bannon, mark meadows, dan scavino, kash patel.t just about the days of the insurrection. it's about the days prior. all of the pressure points. that's what the committee clearly wants to find out. because those are the scenes they reference from our book. >> laura, you're shaking your head in agreement here. i'm wondering the stalling tactic that they're doing. so the select committee can't get there, can't serve them and they're just not complying. is there any way to expedite this...
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. >> on friday, the committee's asked former white house officials mark meadows and dan scavino to appear. meadows is engaging with the committee, but scavino only received his cena last friday. >> the committee is considering each of these cases individually on its merits and will move swiftly to get the information we need as part of the investigation. >> the committee is feeling a sense of urgency, as trump continues to peddle his big lie about the election results and is finding willing republican voters and leaders to agree with him. >> you always read in there, while there's no evidence to prove this, there's so much evidence. it's pouring out of our ears. >> and the former president has made it clear he's going to do everything he possibly can to prevent the committee from getting the information they're looking for. he said that he's going to attempt to defend executive privilege, but he's having a hard time finding legal help in that goal. in fact, cnn reached out to a number of lawyers that have once worked for the former president in different capacities, and many of them say t
. >> on friday, the committee's asked former white house officials mark meadows and dan scavino to appear. meadows is engaging with the committee, but scavino only received his cena last friday. >> the committee is considering each of these cases individually on its merits and will move swiftly to get the information we need as part of the investigation. >> the committee is feeling a sense of urgency, as trump continues to peddle his big lie about the election results and is...
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dan scavino and former chief of staff to the acting secretary of defense ash patel. their interviews have been delayed and the republicans have to stay strong. meanwhile, the former president is telling his own republicans not to vote in the midterms or the next presidential election. mister trump saying in a statement last night, if we don't solve the presidential election fraud of 2020 republicans will not be voting. >> that was allison harrison or allison harris reporting for us again. there's no evidence of widespread voter fraud and the former president's claims have been disproven in court. the january says committee has also subpoenaed about a dozen other officials from the trump administration as well as people who took part in the riot. francisco house speaker nancy pelosi and senator alex padilla discuss the infrastructure bill still in limbo in congress. they talked about how the bill relates to climate change and its impact right here in california. the goal is a net 0 emissions economy by 2050 senator padilla emphasize the importance of ending the world'
dan scavino and former chief of staff to the acting secretary of defense ash patel. their interviews have been delayed and the republicans have to stay strong. meanwhile, the former president is telling his own republicans not to vote in the midterms or the next presidential election. mister trump saying in a statement last night, if we don't solve the presidential election fraud of 2020 republicans will not be voting. >> that was allison harrison or allison harris reporting for us again....
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the problem is dan scavino is mia. he is in fact, still tweeting on his private accounts at least.s out there somewhere. the question is how far do house investigators want to go? they don't want this to drag on. they could try to go to court to get the subpoena enforced to say he's dodging service here. they have other people they want to talk to that haven't dodged service, steve bannon, kash patel, other close allies of the president. scavino is essential. >> service by dm maybe one day. maybe that would work. it certainly would work here. . >> i don't think that's been tested in the courts yet. i'll have to get back to you. >> separately, one of the men who was charged with killing ahmaud arbery, we are watching this case carefully, is asking evidence of his confederacy support banned. >>> this is what lawyers would call a very bad fact. if you have been accused of killing an unarmed black man who was jogging while black in georgia last year, a case where motive is going to be key. this is all going to come down to what their intent was. and at the same time, at the time of thi
the problem is dan scavino is mia. he is in fact, still tweeting on his private accounts at least.s out there somewhere. the question is how far do house investigators want to go? they don't want this to drag on. they could try to go to court to get the subpoena enforced to say he's dodging service here. they have other people they want to talk to that haven't dodged service, steve bannon, kash patel, other close allies of the president. scavino is essential. >> service by dm maybe one...
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it wants to give a subpoena to dan scavino because he may have information about what was done and notwhat do you make of that? . >> it has been extraordinary how many trump officials have ignored subpoenaed. you have somebody testifying that he was issued a subpoena two years. you cannot ignore the law. they will find him eventually and they will serve the subpoena. but this idea that somehow some people are above the law is a very dangerous precedent. in governor christine todd whitman, thank you for being with us this morning. >> my pleasure. >>> just ahead, the sports anchor pulled off the air after remarks about race, vaccines, and women. >>> and the trump aide that the january 6th committee can't even find to subpoena. i've spent centuries evolving with the world. some changes made me stronger. others, weaker. that's the nature of being the economy. i've observed investors navigating the unexpected, choosing assets to balance risk and reward. and i've seen how one element has secured their portfolios, time after time. gold. an element so agile and liquid. a proven protector. an e
it wants to give a subpoena to dan scavino because he may have information about what was done and notwhat do you make of that? . >> it has been extraordinary how many trump officials have ignored subpoenaed. you have somebody testifying that he was issued a subpoena two years. you cannot ignore the law. they will find him eventually and they will serve the subpoena. but this idea that somehow some people are above the law is a very dangerous precedent. in governor christine todd whitman,...
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and dan scavino, they delayed his subpoena as well, and they are ready to do the same with patel, meadows and scavino as they did with bannon if they feel they're trying to drag this process out without actually cooperating. >> ryan, thank you for explaining the breaking news. >>> stanley rand is the former house of representatives. we were just told how it needs to be sent to the doj. what do we need to know how as this potentially heads over to doj and how rare those charges are to be filed? >> after the certification of the house, if the house votes to ratify what the committee has done, there is a referral to the u.s. attorney and the district of columbia who has to decide whether to bring it to a grand jury. if there is, and a hearing cons construes, then they have to bring it before a criminal trial. with jury verdicts, there are often appeals as there have been in the hundreds of cases filed in the 1950s and 1960s, many which were reversed because of inefficiencies in the case. the last time this happened, i was actually counsel to the house in 1983 when we referred ravita covel fo
and dan scavino, they delayed his subpoena as well, and they are ready to do the same with patel, meadows and scavino as they did with bannon if they feel they're trying to drag this process out without actually cooperating. >> ryan, thank you for explaining the breaking news. >>> stanley rand is the former house of representatives. we were just told how it needs to be sent to the doj. what do we need to know how as this potentially heads over to doj and how rare those charges...
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so there's four people that were initially subpoenaed, meadows, dan scavino, cash patel, and steve bannon. bannon wasn't a part of the white house. he was an informal adviser. he's saying there's an executive privilege claim by the ex-president who wasn't formerly part of the government, very weak. he has not been in contact with the committee. he says basically i'm going to violate your subpoena, and today he's saying looking forward to steve bannon's deposition tomorrow, receiving all the testimony evidence we subpoenaed. this is a legal order, as well as a civic duty to share info about the most sweeping violent attack on congress since the war of 1812. something is going to happen tomorrow one way or the other, and then it's a question what the department of justice, the committee does and the doj does if he doesn't show up, right? >> yes, but then what the courts do. something is going to happen. i'll tell you what it is. bannon won't show up, and barb's 100% right about the law, it does belong to the sitting president but the point is are they able to roll the same slow game that th
so there's four people that were initially subpoenaed, meadows, dan scavino, cash patel, and steve bannon. bannon wasn't a part of the white house. he was an informal adviser. he's saying there's an executive privilege claim by the ex-president who wasn't formerly part of the government, very weak. he has not been in contact with the committee. he says basically i'm going to violate your subpoena, and today he's saying looking forward to steve bannon's deposition tomorrow, receiving all the...
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dan scavino still has yet to be found. what's going on here? >> it's impossible to believe because it's been all to news unable to find him to fizz lis sir them with the supporter. that's tort. they're supposed to show that they're complying with the requirements death riced. . it's not particular pli pom out of the water. they're wait another week to conduct the depositions. however, without the documents to review, it's much more diff to ask questions. right now we flow are other who have been subpoenaed who intent to comply or they're saying, it's a congressional subpoena. it's not a sep. there will be civil remedies, possible criminal remedies. it's early, only 11:00. we'll see with more can be brought into it. >> thank you. joining us now, jeffrey toobin. we've seen so trump related subpoenas in congress. why do these things, these sps, psych like. bhorned lore it is position to get these matters tied up in the court. they subpoenaed don mcgahn. that dispute lasted two years, district court, circuit court, supreme court. that lohse e. that
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the committee was finally able to serve dan scavino after initially being unable to locate him.makers say former chief of staff mark meadows and kash patel have been engaging with the committee, engaging, unclear exactly what that means. on friday, donald trump said he did not want the documents released. he sent a formal level requesting they not be turned over. but the actual president of the united states, joe biden, is not asserting executive privilege. in other words, he is allowing the documents to be released, or wants to. this sets up a legal showdown between the current and former president over executive privilege. >>> new this morning, a former high-ranking official for the u.s. capitol police is leveling serious allegations at two top leadership members accusing them of inaction on the day of the riot. whitney wild is joining us now. look, i know you have been working on this story for some time now. what have you found? >> reporter: well, the 16-page whistle-blower complaint is extremely detailed. and today we're going to share the details of that letter, a 16-year
the committee was finally able to serve dan scavino after initially being unable to locate him.makers say former chief of staff mark meadows and kash patel have been engaging with the committee, engaging, unclear exactly what that means. on friday, donald trump said he did not want the documents released. he sent a formal level requesting they not be turned over. but the actual president of the united states, joe biden, is not asserting executive privilege. in other words, he is allowing the...