ok, one thing we noticed in your clip with dan schulman -- the genes and the cowboy boots.axed, which is interesting considering his long tenure at american express. he is moving to the bay area. it is the first time he will be living on the west and best coast, but he certainly seems to be embracing the silicon valley mentality. an interesting point, because there is nobody from the so-called paypal mafia on the board, from the original sounding team or the original employees team. talking to people that paypal, they are not happy about that. they think it is really important to have the founder's like that on the team. i did talk to the now paypal chairman, and he's the, you never know area we always -- and he said, you never know. we always welcome their input. there is a representative of carl's on the board, and he is about $180 made million. theydonahoe told me that were talking every year whether it was better to stay together or separate, and it was only until recently that they got the companies had a better chance separate. we do not know for sure what exactly was