alex chriss replacing dan shulman.ou mentioned turnarounds, jim i don't know if you could term it that. the board says, listen, the businesses he's overseen at intuit have become customer growth engines and platforms for small to mid market companies and entrepreneurs. he's led, by the way, the small business segment at intuit for the last five years. he's grown business and customers at a compound rate of 20 and 23% respectively. >> paypal used to be that. >> board has indicated to me they reviewed as many as nine candidates, took that down to four and made their choice of mr. chriss recently. also having spoken to as many as 20 investors around the process, trying to get a sense from investors as to how they were thinking about the company >> well, square and paypal have been the two losers, and then one of david's favorites, visa, and mastercard, have been the two winners, and if you look at the visa and mastercard moves, these are basically saying, okay, look, that was really fun with the fintech glad you had a goo