trump is doing right now. >> dan stein, final word? have to -- >> that's a lot of n's. >> you worked hard on that. >> so is spiro agney. under the constitution, on question of authority -- >> i don't know what authority mr. stein wouldn't give the president on immigration. >> i've been studying immigration policy for 40 years. there's no standing. >> dan stein, agney said it. who wrote it for him? >> william sapphire. >> thank you very much to both of you guys. this will continue when you see what happens when it goes to court, we'll bring you back on. thank you, alison. >> no nattering of negativity here. >>> we're digging deeper on a couple of very specific can as that are bubbling up. that's next. y28cny ywty on your phone and online.s a modern way to pay. so you don't miss his first birthday. tickets, i need to see your tickets sir. i masterpassed it. feeling like father of the year: priceless masterpass, the secure way to pay from your bank don't just buy it. masterpass it. the markets change... at t. rowe price... our disciplined

joining us, dan stein, president of the federation for american immigration reform or f.a.i.r. e president's actions on immigration. and andre segura from the aclu who oppose z the travel ban. dan, what do you understand about how the new revised version will look? >> clearly they've taken their time and are going to make sure hopefully they can draft an order that won't be attacked judicially. they'll probably exclude iraq, maybe for political reasons. that doesn't strengthen their case if that's the rationale. they'll have a phase-in period. because they'll exclude aliens who had substantial contact with the u.s. already like green card holders, f 1 visa and are re-entering. it's likely that's eel confine it to people who have had no prior contact with the u.s. to try to minimize the possibility for legal standing. we know the aclu doesn't want any immigration control, so they'll probably bring 50 different lawsuits to try to get one judge as they did in the ninth circuit to try to enjoin it. ultimately an injunction can put the whole thing on ice for a while. >> andre, you do

>> joining us to discuss, andre segura with aclu and dan stein, president for the federation for americaneform. nice to have you both here. this takes effect on thursday. let me begin with you, andre. we did not see the protests, thousands of people at the airports, et cetera. this is different. the question is so what extent is it different? that's an answer that will only come from the courts from these challenges. i would pose to you there is no mention of religion in this one, for example. you guys still want to fight this. >> right. and the first one, to be clear, there was only one mention of religion. we're arguing beyond that. courts allow you to look beyond the four corners of a document to say there was discriminatory intent. >> you're looking at intent. for our viewers, correct me if i'm wrong, when the president said during the campaign that he will institute a muslim ban. legally that's a hard argument to make, that intent before someone was in office is what is part and parcel -- >> this is directly connected to what he wanted. i'm going to have a complete and total shutdown