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the amount of daily activity. you go a step further and look at these books like the blue zones, as everybody seems -- i forget his first name, dan the union the. zone, where do people live the longest? you see what they do include drinking red wine, put it in a book can sell millions, the 1 rules, move naturally. don't become a weekend warrior, don't run marathons and triathlons, don't ask people to exercise. they will stop. find a way to build normal motion into your every life, who is going to change their work routine to go from being an accountant to being a lumberjack. that won't happen. back to work or walk to the store and forget to mention half of america you can't bike to work and can't walk to the store because you live in of called a sack of of a highway that the store is on solid is fundamentally about how we build our communities in the long run. is about where you choose to live and that is nowhere more obvious than in the other big discussion which is car crashes which are funny. and we naturalize it. that is a part of living, and there's a chance i will buy a car crash and one in three can't i will be seriously injured, th
the amount of daily activity. you go a step further and look at these books like the blue zones, as everybody seems -- i forget his first name, dan the union the. zone, where do people live the longest? you see what they do include drinking red wine, put it in a book can sell millions, the 1 rules, move naturally. don't become a weekend warrior, don't run marathons and triathlons, don't ask people to exercise. they will stop. find a way to build normal motion into your every life, who is going...
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two things that the president says are top priorities in his second term. >> dan lothian, watching all of this unfold over at the white house, dan, thanks. >>> the state of the union is a huge test of a president's communication skills. but let's face it, it's also the words, the hard work of speechwriters that potentially could make a lot of difference. take a look at the way some past presidents pulled it off. some of them better than others. >> if anyone expects just a proud recitation of the accomplishments of my administration, i say let's leave that to history. we're not finished yet. >> if anyone tells you that america's best days are behind her, they're looking the wrong way. >> the era of big government is over. but we cannot go back to the time when our citizens were left to fend for themselves. >> once again, we are called to defend the safety of our people. and the hopes of all mankind, and we accept this responsibility. >> with us now, former presidential speechwriters, both presidential contributors, david frum and paul begala. how difficult is the state of the union leading off the second term? >> especially challenging because of the second term ji
two things that the president says are top priorities in his second term. >> dan lothian, watching all of this unfold over at the white house, dan, thanks. >>> the state of the union is a huge test of a president's communication skills. but let's face it, it's also the words, the hard work of speechwriters that potentially could make a lot of difference. take a look at the way some past presidents pulled it off. some of them better than others. >> if anyone expects just a...
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the second state of the union address. his focus will be on the economy, job creation and also were expected to touch on the gun control, immigration and the afghanistan war. danr: bart is considering to expand the embarcadero and montgomery stations. they see the bulk of travelers going in and out of san francisco. some of these include new tunnels, staircases and the writers could enter the trades from both sides. charles clifford, kron 4. >> catherine: and retrains- from both sides. -- and to enter those trains from both sides. and also, this interactive storm a map of the noreaster the natural disaster. gabe slate tech report these real time showing you the impact of storms impacted by social media. this is like a disaster area based on the user's information that they put you can see the related tweets and evenfall from flickr and hd videos and geo tagging if you turn off geo tagging it will show where you are posting from your uploaded phone file..if you would like to explore go to www.kron4.com gabe slate tech report temperatures for near 70 degrees. and for both of those locations, 60s for the rest of the bay area. 60s in san jose. and a bit warmer for
the second state of the union address. his focus will be on the economy, job creation and also were expected to touch on the gun control, immigration and the afghanistan war. danr: bart is considering to expand the embarcadero and montgomery stations. they see the bulk of travelers going in and out of san francisco. some of these include new tunnels, staircases and the writers could enter the trades from both sides. charles clifford, kron 4. >> catherine: and retrains- from both sides. --...
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the state of the union will be begin right here at 9:00 p.m. eastern. i will see you then. good night. >>> good evening, i'm dan ashley. >> i'm carolyn johnson. abc news coverage of thenion address begins in just a moment. >> flames and black smoke pour are a mountain cabin where authorities say fugitive ex-cop christopher dorner barricaded himself after shooting and killing one deputy and wounding another this afternoon. he is wanted for three other killings apparently as revenge for being kicked off the course, police have not been able to enter the burning cabin. >> the mother of a concord teenager hit by a cartels abc 7 news joey hornsby has serious injuries but is getting better. sky 7 was just minutes after the 14-year-old was struck. his mother says it has no stop sign or yield sign. she would like to see more than a yellow pedestrian crossing sign. >> we want to give you a look at the forecast as well. >> we have clear skies right now. no clouds around. it will be on the cool side overnight but look at the accu-weather forecast. sunny day as head throughout the weekend, mild high temperatures getting up around 70 before the end of the week. >> thank you very
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the vote to move from where it is now to a different place. dan pfeiffer said to make sure to watch marco rubio's response to the state of the union address becauseconsiders it a historic moment, the first time such an add tkrepb in english and in spanish. >> pelley: major, thanks very much. bob schieffer, norah o'donnell, the president covered a lot of ground. what struck you bob? >> schieffer: i thought it was a much more powerful and well organized argument than the president made in his inaugural speech. it had -- it started out, he laid out the reasons that he thinks these things should be done. there are many battles and many miles to go before we'll know whether any of this comes to fruition. but i think the president did well tonight. >> o'donnell: a very detailed policy speech. he wants action on immigration he wants action on climate change, he wants action on the automatic spending cuts that are coming out. this is very aggressive with a very recalcitrant republican. we'll see how much gets done. we'll have more with senator rubio on cbs "this morning" tomorrow and for the first time congressman paul ryan, who was the vice presidential
the vote to move from where it is now to a different place. dan pfeiffer said to make sure to watch marco rubio's response to the state of the union address becauseconsiders it a historic moment, the first time such an add tkrepb in english and in spanish. >> pelley: major, thanks very much. bob schieffer, norah o'donnell, the president covered a lot of ground. what struck you bob? >> schieffer: i thought it was a much more powerful and well organized argument than the president...
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the gold, rules. can we do anything about it? my two guests think we can. they say that if anybody should own the politicians, we the people should. dan cantor is a former community and union organizer who's executive director of the working families party. that's a third party that began in new york state and has now spread to five others. since its launch 15 years ago, he's helped lead the party's efforts to elect progressive candidates throughout the state and worked to increase new york's minimum wage and raise taxes on the rich. jonathan soros is one of those who would pay more. he's a lawyer, investor, and philanthropist working on economic change and social goods. a senior fellow at the roosevelt institute exploring the role of corporations in society, and co-founder of the super pac friends of democracy, which aims to counter the influence of money in politics. an irony we'll discuss later. dan and jonathan are on the front lines of the fight to make new york state a national model for the public financing of political campaigns. welcome to you both. >> thank you so much. >> glad to be here. >> what an odd couple you are. jonathan, you're a lawyer, a man of means,
the gold, rules. can we do anything about it? my two guests think we can. they say that if anybody should own the politicians, we the people should. dan cantor is a former community and union organizer who's executive director of the working families party. that's a third party that began in new york state and has now spread to five others. since its launch 15 years ago, he's helped lead the party's efforts to elect progressive candidates throughout the state and worked to increase new york's...
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the american dream. >> i want to bring in dan lothian at the white house. so, dan, the president often after the day of state of the unionhope this is going to pressure republicans to sit at the table and get some of the things done he wants to push forward? >> reporter: well, the strategy here, obviously, is for this message to resinate across the country and to empower voters out there to then put the pressure on lawmakers to push the president's agenda forward over the next four years. we've seen the president do this throughout the first four years whenever he had something that he was pushing, whether it's health care or any other issue, he goes out to the public, gets them to write letters, to send e-mails to their lawmakers or bend their ear when they're in the district to push the president's agenda forward. this is what the president's doing, focusing on things like investments in manufacturing, in education, talking about raising the minimum wage as you pointed out a short time ago. and the president highlighted asheville, north carolina, because this is a region that the president says in the past has been hit
the american dream. >> i want to bring in dan lothian at the white house. so, dan, the president often after the day of state of the unionhope this is going to pressure republicans to sit at the table and get some of the things done he wants to push forward? >> reporter: well, the strategy here, obviously, is for this message to resinate across the country and to empower voters out there to then put the pressure on lawmakers to push the president's agenda forward over the next four...
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the union" address, so what difference has a year made? dan lothian takes a look. >> reporter: with confidence and conviction, president obama paved the road through 2012 with his state of then do this. >> reporter: making solutions and promises. >> i can go anywhere in the world. we know how to fix it. >> reporter: how far did he go? did he get what he wanted? on immigration he offered a break for some young students in this country illegally. >> let's at least agree to stop expelling responsible people who want to staff our lands, start new businesses, dpeenld this country. >> reporter: he later signed an executive order similar to the d.r.e.a.m. act to do just that with certain requirements. many of the hispanic community criticized him for not acting sooner. and on education for all college students, a promise to keep costs down while putting administrators on notice. >> if you can't stop tuition from going up, the funding you get from taxpayers will go down. >> reporter: the president extended a $2,500 tax credit for public students and it caused some private universities to freeze tuitions and cut costs but some promises ran into stiff congressional opposition, a move
the union" address, so what difference has a year made? dan lothian takes a look. >> reporter: with confidence and conviction, president obama paved the road through 2012 with his state of then do this. >> reporter: making solutions and promises. >> i can go anywhere in the world. we know how to fix it. >> reporter: how far did he go? did he get what he wanted? on immigration he offered a break for some young students in this country illegally. >> let's at...
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the president's state of the union speech. now joining us is a democrat from illinois, dan shikokwsi. i want to start, what's the ribbon you have on tonight? >> this is in memory of the children killed at sandy hook school. i also had a mom in the gallery from illinois who lost her 19-year-old son, and activist to prevent gun violence. i saw her crying when the president was saying that we need a vote on these important gun safety measures. i was also thrilled because i'm on the energy and commerce committee, and he talk about climate change and basically challenged the congress and said if you don't do something about it, will, and i think that's exactly the kind of urgency we need on this issue. and finally, let me say, when he says we should raise the minimum wage to $9 an hour, and like mitt romney, who also felt it should be indexed to the cost of living every year, i thought that was fabulous. that's what we need to do to help jump start our recovering economy. >> did you have a chance to talk with your colleague, senator mark kick in i saw him on the floor, the president greeting him. >> i didn't. i'm so
the president's state of the union speech. now joining us is a democrat from illinois, dan shikokwsi. i want to start, what's the ribbon you have on tonight? >> this is in memory of the children killed at sandy hook school. i also had a mom in the gallery from illinois who lost her 19-year-old son, and activist to prevent gun violence. i saw her crying when the president was saying that we need a vote on these important gun safety measures. i was also thrilled because i'm on the energy...
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the economy and education that he outlined in the state of the union address. gun violence also on the agenda when the president speaks to a chicago high school. dan lothian live at the white house with a preview. homecoming of sorts, dan. >> the president will be speaking at hyde park academy, and as you pointed out, the main focus will be the economy. but the president will be talking about gun violence in a city that last year had almost 2500 shootings and more than 500 murders, and, of course, you have the high-profile murder of 15-year-old hadiya pendleton, whose parents attended the state of the union address. the president will talk about creating economic opportunities, so that young people will not turn to a life of crime. but he al also continue to put pressure on congress to take action. such as the universal background checks or the ban on some assault weapons and those high capacity magazines, but there is great resistance from gun rights groups like the nra who are concerned about their second amendment rights, they believe that officials need to start enforcing existing laws instead of creating new ones. john. >> all right. thanks a
the economy and education that he outlined in the state of the union address. gun violence also on the agenda when the president speaks to a chicago high school. dan lothian live at the white house with a preview. homecoming of sorts, dan. >> the president will be speaking at hyde park academy, and as you pointed out, the main focus will be the economy. but the president will be talking about gun violence in a city that last year had almost 2500 shootings and more than 500 murders, and,...
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the union address of his second term. kron4's dan kerman has a preview of some of the controversial topics he's expected to discuss. >> reporter: if you own a business or are looking for a job you'll want to tune in because not surprisingly the economy will be the primary focus of the state of the union. the president will talk about job creation, and growing the economy by investing in education, boosting clean energy production and reducing the deficit in ways that don't burden seniors, the middle class or the poor it's the president's belief that reducing the deficit must be a balanced approach. one that includes spending cuts and increased revenues. that's why he's expected to talk taxes and those automatic across the board spending cuts, now expected to hit in march and the president will discuss the need to raise the debt ceiling as well. gun control is another key reason to watch the speech since we expect the president to continue his push for universal background checks and a ban on assault weapons relatives of numerous victims of gun violence, plus victims themselves have been invited to the speech and are expected to be in the house gallery. in fact, the family of a chicago teenager who was shot to death last mont
the union address of his second term. kron4's dan kerman has a preview of some of the controversial topics he's expected to discuss. >> reporter: if you own a business or are looking for a job you'll want to tune in because not surprisingly the economy will be the primary focus of the state of the union. the president will talk about job creation, and growing the economy by investing in education, boosting clean energy production and reducing the deficit in ways that don't burden seniors,...
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dan, reporting in from rome tonight. >>> and now, here at home, the hot debate about the president's proposal in the state of the union to raise the minimum wage in america. he said he wants to raise it from $7.25 an hour to $9, tied to inflation. and that will effect 15 million people, by the way, they're nearly two-thirds women and they're young, working to make their way into the middle class. so, how much would this help? here's abc's chief white house correspondent jonathan karl. >> reporter: the president took his state of the union message on the road today to asheville, north carolina, touting his most controversial new proposal -- raising the minimum wage. >> it's time for an increase in the minimum wage, because if you work full time, you shouldn't be in poverty. >> reporter: lucas case of henderson county, north carolina, is a high school grad who couldn't afford college. he makes the minimum wage washing dishes. >> well, it's not fun living paycheck to paycheck. >> reporter: working 30 hours a week, lucas earns just $217. a raise to $9 an hour would mean $52 a week more in his paycheck. what would he do wi
dan, reporting in from rome tonight. >>> and now, here at home, the hot debate about the president's proposal in the state of the union to raise the minimum wage in america. he said he wants to raise it from $7.25 an hour to $9, tied to inflation. and that will effect 15 million people, by the way, they're nearly two-thirds women and they're young, working to make their way into the middle class. so, how much would this help? here's abc's chief white house correspondent jonathan karl....
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. >> deal or more hyperbole, we'll ask dan malloy, haley barbour, and jackie calmes of "the new york times." i'm candy crowley and this is "state of the union yt yt. >>> with just five days to go until automatic spending cuts kick in, the obama administration is ratcheting up spending about aircraft carriers that can't make it to the persian gulf. if you're flying anywhere in the next month or so, the transportation secretary warns you should brace for more flight delays and longer wait lines at security checkpoints. secretary lahood joins me now. thank you for being here to talk about this. >> good morning. >> as far as we can figure out, the faa budget, we're not even talking about the transportation, is about $15 billion, give or take. they'll have to cut $16 million, about 4%. why is that enough to cause planes to be delayed for an hour and a half? there should be must be things inside the faa budget where can you get rid of 4%. >> wire going to do that. we have been spending the last several months looking at and we will really focus on this now, every contract to see what penalties we might have to cut. we'll look at everything we pos
. >> deal or more hyperbole, we'll ask dan malloy, haley barbour, and jackie calmes of "the new york times." i'm candy crowley and this is "state of the union yt yt. >>> with just five days to go until automatic spending cuts kick in, the obama administration is ratcheting up spending about aircraft carriers that can't make it to the persian gulf. if you're flying anywhere in the next month or so, the transportation secretary warns you should brace for more flight...
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charles, you may be happy or not to know that dan pfeiffer, communication director in terms of word cap, this is the president's second shortest state of the union address. the shortest in 2009. i don't know how you feel about that. >> in gratitude. (laughter) . >> bret: final word before we hear from the president. >> one thing, it's a grand owe hecation, all the branches are together. the congress, judges, military and a reason that jefferson stopped giving them in the house, gave a written stateme statement a reason for a hundred years there was a written statement until woodrow wilson began giving them in person. >> ladies and gentlemen, president barack obama, his fourth state of the union address. >> members of congress, i have the high privilege and distinct honor of presenting to you the president of the united states. [applaus [applause] >> thank you. thank you very much. thank you so much. thank you. thank you very much. thank you. mr. speaker, mr. vice-president, members of congre congress, fellow americans, 51 years ago john f. kennedy declared to this chamber that the constitution makes us not rivals for power, but partners for prog
charles, you may be happy or not to know that dan pfeiffer, communication director in terms of word cap, this is the president's second shortest state of the union address. the shortest in 2009. i don't know how you feel about that. >> in gratitude. (laughter) . >> bret: final word before we hear from the president. >> one thing, it's a grand owe hecation, all the branches are together. the congress, judges, military and a reason that jefferson stopped giving them in the...
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dan lorian, the move will mean about 200 new american jobs. so while apple is bringing production to the united states, and that's a good thing, should they have been congratulated during the state of the union$100 million investment is 0.0073% of apple's current cash on hand of more than $100 billion. and if we're congratulating apple on creating 200 new american jobs, we should congratulate leanovo from china, because they said they would make their think-branded computers at a facility in north carolina, creating 115 new american jobs. that's pretty darn good, too. should the president have mentioned them? we'll be right back. ó? all stations come over to mission a for a final go. this is for real this time. step seven point two one two. verify and lock. command is locked. five seconds. three, two, one. standing by for capture. the most innovative software on the planet... dragon is captured. is connecting today's leading companies to places beyond it. siemens. answers. see lioutdoors, or in.ight. transitions® lenses automatically filter just the right amount of light. so you see everything the way it's meant to be seen. maybe even a little better. visit your eyecare professional today to
dan lorian, the move will mean about 200 new american jobs. so while apple is bringing production to the united states, and that's a good thing, should they have been congratulated during the state of the union$100 million investment is 0.0073% of apple's current cash on hand of more than $100 billion. and if we're congratulating apple on creating 200 new american jobs, we should congratulate leanovo from china, because they said they would make their think-branded computers at a facility in...
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dan lorian, the move will mean about 200 new american jobs. so while apple is bringing production to the united states, and that's a good thing, should they have been congratulated during the state of the unioncongratulating apple on creating 200 new american jobs, we should congratulate leanovo from china, because the computer giant based in china said they would begin making their think-branded computers at a facility in north carolina, creating 115 new american jobs. that's pretty darn good, too. should the president have mentioned them? we'll be right back. you know,that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medications, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sexual activity. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain as this may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess with cialis. side effects may include headache, upset stomac
dan lorian, the move will mean about 200 new american jobs. so while apple is bringing production to the united states, and that's a good thing, should they have been congratulated during the state of the unioncongratulating apple on creating 200 new american jobs, we should congratulate leanovo from china, because the computer giant based in china said they would begin making their think-branded computers at a facility in north carolina, creating 115 new american jobs. that's pretty darn good,...
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the union are popular. he just won his second skbraert majority over the earlier vote. now let me bring in our panel, radio talk show host, mike smerconish, rachel smoken and political correspondent dan clagman, dan, you have heard a lot about hagel, you heard john harwood say that we could be in a permanent state of war between the president and the republicans. >> i think what makes it so acute in this case is that it's happening in the context of foreign policy. here you have a defense secretary who's being filibustered, at the same time that there's a possibility filibuster as the cia director. i do think that ultimately, these political fights don't happen in a vacuum, all of the things that john harwood just said about the wind being at the president's back is going to end up meaning that he's going to get a deferment. >> and chuck hagel, if he's confirmed will attend a nato conference. and if not, panetta will have to step in there. >> and that's the pressure that's going to have to come to bear for the republicans, at the end of the day, this has real impact if the president doesn't have a confirmed secretary of defense. >> some of the republicans have tried to, i don't know if it's splitting hairs or if they're embarrassed by the use of the word filibuster, but they're attempting to describe this as some
the union are popular. he just won his second skbraert majority over the earlier vote. now let me bring in our panel, radio talk show host, mike smerconish, rachel smoken and political correspondent dan clagman, dan, you have heard a lot about hagel, you heard john harwood say that we could be in a permanent state of war between the president and the republicans. >> i think what makes it so acute in this case is that it's happening in the context of foreign policy. here you have a defense...
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the alternative view and not at the inside edge. i love dan savage, but they don't agree with everything he says. they claim marriage has a nice sense and is essentially an emotional union by whatever sexual activity partners find agreeable. thelogic of that view is there are no principal boundaries to marriage, so it has to seep into polygamist groups and celebrants to share household such as brothers living together. they are right about the rivals, weaknesses of rival essentialism. the most attractive is to say marriage is not essentially anything. it's a historical cultural formation. it would not have arisen were it not the case human beings reproduce and that's how it came to arise. but it doesn't have any sense. there are irregularities that to influence the way married people behave, so it is handy to know 99% of heterosexual couples expect exclusivity in their marriage and violations across lots of cultures. it's a good thing for you to know. keep that in mind. the marriage might be practiced dish can be modified freely as human needs evolve. so the fundamental difficulty in the claim i think is the short distance from premise to conclusion. the union of the married heterosexual couple is uniquely good because the un
the alternative view and not at the inside edge. i love dan savage, but they don't agree with everything he says. they claim marriage has a nice sense and is essentially an emotional union by whatever sexual activity partners find agreeable. thelogic of that view is there are no principal boundaries to marriage, so it has to seep into polygamist groups and celebrants to share household such as brothers living together. they are right about the rivals, weaknesses of rival essentialism. the most...
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dan savage, but i do not agree with everything he says. they claim that the alternate view holds that marriage has an essence and is essentially an emotional union nearly enhanced by whatever sexual activity the partners find agreeable. the logic of that view is that there are no principled boundaries to marriage so it has to logically sweep into itself polygamist groups and celibates who happen to share a household such as brothers living together. they are right about the weaknesses of any rival eventualism,. i think the right things to say that marriage is not essentially anything. it is a historical, cultural formation. it would not have arisen were it not the case that human beings produce sexually. that is how it came to arise. but it does not have any essence. there are regularities about it that ought to influence the weight married people behave. 99% of heterosexual couples report that they expect sexual exclusivity in their marriage. violations of it are rounds for divorce across lots of cultures. keep that in mind. but marriage might be a practice that suits needs but can be modified freely as our understanding of human needs of all. evolves. the fundamental difficulty in the claim
dan savage, but i do not agree with everything he says. they claim that the alternate view holds that marriage has an essence and is essentially an emotional union nearly enhanced by whatever sexual activity the partners find agreeable. the logic of that view is that there are no principled boundaries to marriage so it has to logically sweep into itself polygamist groups and celibates who happen to share a household such as brothers living together. they are right about the weaknesses of any...
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dan savage, but i do not agree with everything he says. they claim that the alrnate view holds that marriage has an essence and is essentially an emotional union nearly enhanced by whatever sexual activity the partners find agreeable. the logic of that view is that there are no principled boundaries to marriage so it has to logically sweep into itself polygamist groups and celibates who happen to share a household such as brothers living together. they are right about the weaknesses of any rival evangelism. -- eventualism,. i think the right things to say that marriage is not essentially anything. it is a historical, cultural formation. it would not have arisen were it not the case that human beings produce sexually. that is how it came to arise. but it does not have any essence. there are regularities about it that ought to influence the weight married people behave. 99% of heterosexual couples report that they expect sexual exclusivity in their marriage. violations of it are rounds for divorce across lots of cultures. keep that in mind. but marriage might be a practice that suits needs but can be modified freely as our derstanding of human needs of all. the fundamental difficulty in the c
dan savage, but i do not agree with everything he says. they claim that the alrnate view holds that marriage has an essence and is essentially an emotional union nearly enhanced by whatever sexual activity the partners find agreeable. the logic of that view is that there are no principled boundaries to marriage so it has to logically sweep into itself polygamist groups and celibates who happen to share a household such as brothers living together. they are right about the weaknesses of any...