and dan wieden thinks to himself, "that is so brave. that is so courageous."e realized it's just not quite right. so he changes one word, and it becomes "just do it." that is where the iconic nike campaign comes from. even though we are always trying to make creativity into a rational process, it never is. creativity is really about serendipity. ♪ the reason i think that this category of books might be so popular is because there is a lot of interest in how this works, in how the mind works. i think it's very important to be clear that just because we are beginning to understand how moments of insight work or what's the best way to work in a team, doesn't mean creativity is going to be easy. if there is one thing that science makes clear, it's that it's not going to be easy. it's still going to involve lots of blood, sweat and tears. but maybe, just maybe science can make it just a little bit easier. ♪ >> carson: that was jonah lehrer, fascinating. his new book is called "imagine," it's out now. all right, we will take a break. when we come back bombay bicycle