that's why i was tries to pars everything dana just said. that's not how you do it if you disagree with strategy. you don't go drinking with a "rolling stone" reporter in a bar and get chatty. the strategy is the same. they agree on the strategy. this was obviously clearly insubordination. i would have given anything to be a fly on the wall for that meeting. say it with me. awkward. i hope he took his resignation and sat there for 20 minutes staring at him. >> larry: penn, what did you make of it? the general could have said anything. >> he could say anything he wanted and then get fired. i'm fine with firing him. you know, i was too young to go into the vietnam war but i did pay attention to it. i would have given anything during the vietnam war for one general to tell the truth about anything. even if it was just trashing people in a bar one little bit of truth would have been nice. what i find disturbing is that mcchrystal and obama agree about the war completely and that is that the war will go on forever and kill a lot of people and cos

and dana bash, organizer with the nationwide tea party coalition, and talk show host of the dana show. we'll get their takes after this. you watch this. the hammering that bp ceo tony hayward took on capitol hill. it's brutal. watch. >> that's what this committee is doing. it is an investigating committee and we expect you to cooperate with us. are you failing to cooperate with other investigators as well. they're going to have a hard time reaching conclusions if you stone wall them which is what we seem to be getting to day. >> i'm not stone walling. >> you are the ceo of the company. do you have any sort of technical expert who helps you with these things who might have been there? >> with respect, sir, we drill hundreds of wells a year around the world. >> i know that's what is scaring me right now. >> this is the picture of an oil pelican, our state bird in louisiana. i am going to keep this on my desk as long as we are battling this as a constant reminder of what is at stake? >> larry: all right, ben stein, what do you make of bp's actions here? >> well they obviously made some v

you know, dana? do you know how they will do this $20 billion, dana? >> does anyone know.m sure they will put it in a lock box. >> it will be run by ken feinberg. it itss a democratic party fund run by an avid democrat. a good guy and will do a good job. >> larry: ben, did you want them to appoint a republican? >> absolutely a republican appointed feinberg for 9/11 victims fund. a republican appointed a democrat. it would have been nice if obama appointed a republican it would have shown bipartisanship. the problem is terribly serious the should not be overwhelmed by a new problem. partisanship and politics and abandoning the constitution. let's get the spill filled and return to the constitution. >> the own one raising a partisan issue is you. >> that is not true. >> you pointed out he is a good guy. let it ride. you keep saying he abandoned the constitution. there is nothing unconstitutional about what he did. >> where in the constitution does it say he can do that, professor? where he can strong arm corporations into banking $20 billion? >> it is -- ben, are you serious

like john doolittle and dana rohrabacher. >> we went out there to take a look at some of these clothinges that had come in from order to set up operation there, and it looked like to me that it was working. >> what they would do is take a quick tour of the garment factories and emerge in the front doors of the factory saying, hey, there's nothing going on out here. we don't see any abuses. so what are you guys talking about? >> and what would they do the rest of the time? >> r&&. generally they would stay at the hyatt regency hotel, five stars. there are at least five championship golf courses. >> at some point, jackkmust have realized that that's how you sell the mariana islands. this abominable labor basically. it's one step from slavery. but you bring people over there. it's beautiful, the golf courses, nice hotels. they fell for it. p> we've been out here a week now, and i think the first day will help us maybe enlighten some of the others that haven't been pushing in our direction. -- in the right direction. >> by day, there were sports and games. by night, cocktails, cockfights, a

he then actually went and watched some of my films, and i was able to persuade him with dana's help that i would honor his testimony in a way that would not try to cheapen it and -pto give him sort of vent to wt he wanted to say and put him in a broader perspective. i think also after having spent that much time in prison, bob was interested in trying to find a way to tell his story in a way that would have some larger impact. it was not just here's some juicy jack abramoff story. it's about, you kkow, what's really wrong with washington. for alllthose reasons, i think bob and neil came forward. i'm glad they did. they're the beating heart of the film. and where are the twoff of them today? >> i interviewed neil in washington, d.c., and bob came to new york. bob is still in ohio. he has a radio show. he's a radio show host. neil lives in florida now and he has a -- he works for a community group and also works at a restaurant, i believe. >> a minute and 32-second clip for you from your documentary on the background of abramoff and his access to tom delay. ♪ >> abramoff gave up movie prod

very change demeter captured on super 8 by my dad pulled my little brother harry to play joseph and dana, too, a barnyard animal, into the trance. they were actually pulled into his native a scene by the intensity of my focus. in my usual technique for getting them to do what i want, yelling at them with never have achieved that, and i learned something on that day. later, when i was 9, i remember taking my mother's eyebrow pencil and carefully drawing lines all over my face, replicating wrinkles that i had memorized on the face of my grandmother, whom i adored, and i made my mother take my picture, and i looked at it now, whereas i look like myself now, it was my grandmother then, but i really do remember in my bones how it was possible on that day to feel her age. i stooped. i felt weighted down but cheerful, you know, i felt like her. empathy is at the heart of the actor's art. and in high school, another form of acting took hold of me. i wanted to learn how to be appealing, so i studied the character i imagined i wanted to be, that of the generically pretty high school girl. i resear

very change demeter captured on super 8 by my dad pulled my little brother harry to play joseph and dana a barnyard animal, into the trance. they were actually pulled into his native a scene by the intensity of my focus. in my usual technique for getting them to do what i want, yelling at them with never have achieved that, and i learned something on that day. later, when i was 9, i remember taking my mother's eyebrow pencil and carefully drawing lines all over my face, replicating wrinkles that i had memorized on the face of my grandmother, whom i adored, and i made my mother take my picture, and i looked at it now, whereas i look like myself now, it was my grandmother then, but i really do remember in my bones how it was possible on that day to feel her age. i stooped. i felt weighted down but cheerful, you know, i felt like her. empathy is at the heart of the actor's art. and in high school, another form of actintook hold of me. i wanted to learn how to be appealing, so i studied the character i imagined i wanted to be, that of the generically pretty high school girl. i researched her