this, but i would like somebody here when we hear it again, from rec and park, my first choice is dana ketcham, but if not, someone in her department knowledgeable. >> i think it would be up to dpw to arrange the appropriate person that has specific answers to that question. continue to when? >> what does the calendar look like? >> how is may 9 looking? >> does may 9 work for both parties? i'm potentially not here. >> how about may 23? that's a little less crowded at this point. >> does that work? >> it works for the permit holder. how about the appellant? ok. >> so do we have a motion? >> i'll move to continue the item to may 23. >> president fung? >> aye. commissioner honda? aye commissioner wilson? aye. vice president swig? aye. that motion passes to continue the matter to the 23rd. we expect a department representative for rec and park. do you need a break in -- i'm sorry, one moment, do you want any further briefing on this matter? >> no, i think it's one question, right? >> yeah, just the jurisdiction as to the telephone poles on fulton street. >> no further briefing. >> i guess i have a