we also have in coming weeks dana stevens who's a film clinic from slate, ann a holmes, the founding editor of jezebel, part of the gawker media group. let's see, jennifer sly is another columnist and francine prose who has written more than 20 books, fiction and nonfiction. >> host: that's a nice selection. we appreciate your naming some of those. pamela paul, one of the things you mentioned is that the book world is or may be small. is the book world small and insular? >> guest: well, you know, i think it can feel that way, especially be you're in it -- if you're in it. from the outside it might seem like it's this huge, inpenetrable force that doesn't let outsiders in, but what i really want to do is open that up. i think that people continue to read in the same numbers that they always did. that while the number of book reviews in newspapers in general has gone down, i think people crave stories, and it doesn't matter whether they're reading it on their phone or whether they're taking a book out from the library. i think this is a conversation that people still want to have, and

we also have in the coming weeks dana stevens who is a film critic from slate and the homes the founding editor of jezebel which is a popular web site media group. jenna first ally is another columnist and francine prose has written more than 20 books. fiction and nonfiction. >> host: that is a nice selection and we appreciate you naming some of those. pamela paul one of the things you mentioned is that the book world is or may he small. is the book world small? >> guest: well if you know i think you can feel that way especially if you come from the outside. it may seem like it's a huge impenetrable force that doesn't let outsiders in. but we want to do is open that up. i think people continue to read and the same numbers that they always did. while the number of look reviews in newspapers in general has gone down i think people create stories and it doesn't matter whether they're reading it on their phone or taking a book out from the library. this is a conversation of people still want to have and they still want to know what they should be reading and what is good and worth their time

we also have in the coming weeks dana stevens is a critic from slate and part of the media gawker group. jennifer is another columnist and france team has written more than 20 books. both fiction and nonfiction. >> that's a nice selection. we appreciate your naming some of those. one of the things you mentioned is the book world is or may be small. is the book world small and insular? >> i think it can feel that way. especially if you are in it from coming outside it might seem like it is a huge in punishable force that doesn't let outsiders in. but what i want to do is open that up. i think that people continue to read in the same numbers that they always did. while the number of book reviews and newspapers in general have gone down i think people crave stories and that doesn't mean whether they are reading it on their phone or taking ebook out from the library. i think this is a conversation that people still want to have and they still want to know what they can read and what they should be reading. what is worth their time. >> what about nonfiction books? how does it treat nonfictio