and that was father dan, father daniel berrigan playing himself. >> yes.: liz mcalister is the sister-in-law of father daniel berrigan, one of the plowshares -- members of the plowshares movement all over this world. talk about that moment and what that action meant and is unusual dramatization of that action. firstl, it was one of the of the plowshares actions, and thus it was quite new. but it had been building. i was close to that process. philip also participated in that action, so i was home wiwith the kids, , so to speak --- amy: you had three kids by then. >> yes, i think so. freda, jerry, and k. we were all present in a sense for it and supporting it. therefore,andnd something we were uncertain abououand fearfulul they might e severely hurt in that process. but we prayed and left it in god's hands and it came through unhurt.. and did their witness in court and their witness from prison. amy: i wanted to go to an interview that i did with your latend phil in 1997, her husband phil berrigan, while he was in jail in maine for taking partrt in another