my colleague, roy, sushi spoke to desert storm veteran daniel bosworth. compare that the 2 military campaigns against iraq. in 199091. we had all the military equipment soldiers. we were stopped at the border of iraq. they let saddam hussein stay in power to keep the region stable. right? because you have iran, iraq, i believe in 1991, had the 4th largest military. but then why in 2003, they wanted to take him out of power. when they know it's going to open a vacuum. but was saddam hussein a direct threat now to the united states? no, was he a direct threat to the people of the united states? no, in my opinion, i don't believe so. why do you think, daniel, that america, england and some of the nato allies? why do you think they chose the middle east? one i believe oil i and to i believe to make the middle east unstable. there are certain people who like to control through fear. and if you make to the middle east, unstable, and then you, you keep pushing the narrative terrorists roof. i believe this is a way that they're able to control the people with fear and to be able to have the opportuni