public services so it is open stand a chance against the big bank to talk about this reverend daniel bufford with allen temple baptist church joins us now welcome there so wanted to you know that you kind of have taken the lead it to lead this movement to fight back against the bet the banks to fight back against goldman sachs why take of this approach why fight instead of filing for bankruptcy. well and by the way my pronounce nation and as you've heard us here already apologized in college is that not pop the the the reason that we're doing is is because oakland is is a crash test strip city it's vital services police fire other services like their services to elders schools are being shut down and at the same time these things are happening oakland is paying five million dollars a year to goldman sachs but its annual debt deficit is four point one billion or so dollars so it seemed to us that it would make more sense to reinvest this money back into the city than the throw it down the rabbit hole that is the pocket of goldman sachs and honoring a deal that was a fraudulent deal from its i