trump's spokesperson apparently firing back on the whole stormy daniels' allegations against the president. to former, but 43 -- former bush something to the effect we don't really pay attention to rudy giuliani, don't talk to him and all, i can remember another first lady -- nancy reagan -- who was saying the same about the then-president's chief of staff, don regan, his former treasury secretary. and he was soon history. >> he was. neil: what do you think? >> yes. he had to resign after their relationship became very contentious. they had many fights over -- one of them was president reagan's health. she wanted him to follow the doctor's orders and recuperate after surgery, and he wanted him out there in front of the american people more. at one point he hung up on her. probably not a good idea. [laughter] and he ultimately had to hand in his resignation. neil: yeah. and then there was the astrology thing, if my memory serves me right. you don't want to mess with either the boss' spouse or certainly the president's. it's just, it's going to come back. >> it really will. i mean, lincoln had the same issue. mary todd linco