joining us by zoom is professor of energy daniel cameron. how are you doing, professor?g well. how about you? >> doing great. thank you for shedding some light on this topic. what is the price that actually went into negative territory? what does that mean? >> so it's actually the west texas reference price. and that's a domestic price, so it's little lower than what we would get from saudi arabia for example or from canada. the trading price went to negative $37 a dalbarrel, meani producers are trying to give it away, because they don't want to shut down wells. they have people in the field, but nobody is buying it. >> so this is not even just giving it away, it's a i pay you to take it from me. so what is driving this? is it future worries? >> it's a mixture. certainly, it's the current demand that has dropped to record low levels. so they're giving it away, but not to us. they're giving it away to the middlemen. >> okay. wasn't there a deal last week to cut oil production? >> absolutely. but you can't cut it enough. the demand has dropped so low, and the future foreca

ag daniel cameron has joined the lawsuit challenging the travel ban. he says it's unconstitutional. the attorney general cameron joins me now. reports say that you were initially a defendant in the lawsuit being the state ag, but then you filed a motion for a switcheroo. explain why that happened. that was kind of interesting. >> well, i appreciate you having me tonight, laura. we decided to switch our position in litigation because we wholeheartedly believe in the attorney general's office that this order is overbroad and unconstitutional. it is not nearly tailored in a way that is consistent with the constitution and the responsibility to help flatten the curve. here in kentucky, the health care workers, the first responders all have a unique challenge in confronting this pandemic, but in the attorney general's office we also have a responsibility to defend vigorously the constitution. that is what i am charged with the 51st attorney general in kentucky. that is what kentucky would expect of the person in this position. and so we have the responsibility and have proceeded in that