lines of working with thousands of minority and underserved students and also at the table is daniel denvir who has been covering the biggest ongoing education story in the nation. thanks to both of you for being here. >> than foxer having us. >> here is mitt romney showing up in philadelphia quite in the middle of a night going on there and gives us a 35-page white paper. i read it. first seven pages, i totally agree wit. and the first seven pages the imperative of education reform and the fact that we are in a troubling circumstance and the fact that children and from minority and poor neighborhoods are having all of the problems, but how in page eight does it turn so different and what is going on in terms ofm rm romney conclusions that many of the reformers would agree on? >> what romney was doing in d.c. and later in west philadelphia is to stake out some ground to the political right of president obama when it comes to education. that's going to be a rather difficult task for him, because except for school vouchers use taxpayer funds to subsidize public school tuition, both president