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he tells the book important and daniel ellsberg says it was excellent. let's give a warm welcome to scott. [applause] >> thank you for having me. i appreciate it. so tell a funny joke, pause for laughter. did that work okay? >> i'm quite grateful for the fact that it has worked its way into popular culture, tv and has become another synonym for consequences, basically negative consequences. the real definition is more precise, the word was coined by the cia and 53 after -- and iran. the way it was defined in the paperwork is that back is the consequences of secret foreign policies over the long term that could come back to haunt the american people and they don't understand context or have a way to explain what's going on. that leaves them susceptible to false conclusions about what is happening. when the revolution came it wasn't a clear part of the narrative that they are overthrowing a dictator that america had installed empower after overthrowing their elected government. doesn't mean that the ayatollah was great but it was the context that people di

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