with this bit of richard nixon on tape talking about how the administration should respond to daniel ellsberg>> he just -- i just say that we got to keep our eye on the main ball. the main ball is ellsberg. we have to get this son of a -- and, you know, i was talking to somebody over here yesterday, i mean one of our -- the pr types and they're saying well, maybe we ought to drop the case if the supreme court doesn't sustain and so forth and i said hell no. i mean you can't do that. you can't be in a position of having, as i said this morning, we can't be in a position of ever allowing just because some guy's going to be a martyr, of allowing the fellow to get away with his wholesale fever here otherwise it's going to happen over the court. >> a legitimate argument, it's going to happen all over the government, so what happened to daniel ellsberg, the leaker? >> he went back to his real life. he taught. he wrote. >> he was never prosecuted? >> he was prosecuted for a time and nothing came of it. the prosecution which was brought about the pentagon papers was aborted by the fact of the break-i

the point is this mary trump is a risk simon and schuster is not at risk just like in the in daniel ellsbergcase ellsberg was at risk but the publisher was not at risk because they argued 1st amendment and they also argued that this notion of prior restraint on publishing or pre-publication injunction should not be considered by the court and they were successful so i think the book comes out and i think what mary trump is going to have to understand is there is ramifications that are going to flow after that. it's rare that a book is stopped from publication as an it's very rare it's a for it's a very fundamental 1st amendment right the court looks at yeah there may be some issues but the 1st issue we're going to look at is are we are we willing to enjoin a publication especially a pre-publication and this judge has said look there are already thousands of these books out there what good is it going to do anyway i think simon and schuster is in good shape i can't say that mary trump is in good shape because we haven't had a chance to look at what that in d.n.a. is or whether there's liquida

of that next with richard nixon on tape talking about how the administration should respond to daniel ellsberg>> >> i just say that we have to keep our eye on ellsberg. >> we have got to get this son of a (beep). i was talking to someone over here yesterday. they were saying, well, maybe we ought to drop the case. i said, no, you can't do that. you can't be in a position of ever allowing, just because some e guy is going to be a martyr. otherwise it is going to happen all over the government. >> a legitimate argument that's going to happen all over the argument? so what happened to the leaker? >> he went back to his realize. he taught, he wrote. >> he was never prosecuted? >> he was prosecuted for a time. and nothing came of it. the prosecution which was brought about the pentagon papers was aborted by the fact of the break-in that ted referred to, which the break-in commissioned by the president of the united states, which led the judge burn from california to say, this is conduct of such enormous unacceptability, so destructive of the judicial system, that this trial can't continue. so ellsb

the obama administration had only been used 3 times since 1917 against whistleblowers including daniel ellsberg whose case eventual collapse is that correct that is correct yes. so yeah and you know what had i had. so talk about how they have used the espionage how they've kind of crammed the espionage act which is you say you know in essence about spying how they're kind of legally deforming it to go after julian. well they're saying that these revelations put certain into it confidential informants in jeopardy it turns out that's not really the case. and and therefore help the enemy and also course it puts the united states in a bad light because it's evidence of war crimes the united states you know does not like to be seen as as war criminals even though we've seen the commission of war crimes from the bush administration through the obama administration and now in the in the trump administration this is a bipartisan effort in part because wiki leaks also released the pedestrian e-mails exposing the hypocrisy of the hillary clinton campaign others not a lot of daylight between the trumpet m

and kept coming up with excuses not to investigate daniel ellsberg.h point, nixon turned to eagle crow, one of his staffers, and told him to have your people handle it. he hires e howard hunt and gordon liddy. and that turned out really well. delicious bits in white house memoirs. even delicious bits in the fictionalized memoirs. can you see it? host: i won't let our viewers know that if they want to hear more from christopher buckley on white house memoirs, he has an article in "the wall street journal" talking about what he considers five best wall street memoirs. you can see the five he is talking about. he has talked about two. let's see if we can get a few more colors in. -- callers in. harold, good morning. caller: good morning. great to be on this comedy show. gorbachev is the one who made russia. thank god he made russia great again. thank god that donald trump made america great again. he is the third party. long before he even ran for president, kratz decided -- democrats decided they did not want hillary clinton in the white house, and for

they include eugene debs, julius and ethel rosenberg, modern cases, daniel ellsberg, protester at thepynnvietnam wa, bradley manning in 2010, and edward snowden prosecuted in 2013. >> so the supreme court has changed its mind about some of the provisions of the espionage act, and we can talk about that. congress has the core of it, people would be surprised to know that there are laws in the books that deal forcefully with interfering with the united states ability to mobilize intensive war. >> set the stage for us about the period in which this case arose. we're gonna do that with video. we'll show some protests. songs and pictures from america at the dawn of the new century, as the country was making its decision about whether or not it was going to be involved in the great european war. let's watch. >> i didn't race my boy to be a soldier. i brought him up to be my pride and joy. . ♪ ♪, there would be no war today, if father said i didn't raise my point to be a soldier. >> beverley gauge, woodrow wilson was president, and being courted very strongly by our allies to help in the war