we'll cross live to daniel garvin an activist from anti tax avoidance group u.k. uncut who is in london for us now thank you very much for joining us now the u.k. government says the plan changes to pensions are fair to taxpayers and the public sector do you think britain should be more supportive of their government during a time of crisis. do you think britain should be more supportive of their government. well we know basically the government's line is that any any changes to the pensions or any other public set of cuts are entirely necessary because we have such a large debt we need to remember where this debt came from this debt came from eight hundred fifty billion pounds that was pumped into the banking sector a couple of years ago and still continues to this day so we have a debt and now we've got to ask ourselves how do we deal with that and instead of going after the buy it was the cause of the financial crisis and some of the wealthiest people in our society were avoiding some twenty five billion tax pounds in tax every single year the government plans

largess daniel garvin says that the government is penalizing the wrong people with its tough spending cuts government. you know any any changes to the pensions or any other public said the cuts are entirely necessary because we have such a large debt we need to remember where this came from this came from eight hundred fifty billion pounds that was pumped into the banking sector a couple of years ago and still continues to this day so you know we have a debt and now we've got to ask ourselves how do we deal with this sort of going to cause the financial crisis and some of the wealthiest people in our society who are avoiding some twenty five billion times in tax every single year the government plans through that to basically go off to ordinary working people and if you've been struggling with the pensions is just one of many public sector cuts to come over the next four years so basically this is a huge amount of anger in this country because it's incredibly unfair that ordinary working people have nothing to do with the financial crisis are being asked to pay for crisis that was cau