and daniel goldman, a former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york and also an msnbc legal analyst. kelly, what is the white house saying? what is the white house not saying about this? >> not engaging. we just saw the president who had a chance to respond to questions asked by reporters part of the small pool inside the oval office when he was meeting with the european commission president jean-claude juncker and the president did not engage, did not respond, and thanked reporters. after a bit of back and forth of the thanking and no responses, they exited the room. so the white house is pushing everyone to the outside lawyers for the president and rudy giuliani has been saying that this is information that is exculpatory of the president because it did not, in his view, come to a conclusion of a payment being authorized, a decision being made. what you pointed out was the notion that the president didn't seem surprised in the recording, it was almost as if we were picking up a conversation that had bee

daniel goldman, your office has prosecuted many of those. it is beyond switching families. it is going against the trump family in no uncertain terms. it's a very different message than we heard from michael cohen who once said his links to trump would be as personal lawyer, not for four years, but for eight. take a listen to trump describing the relationship and then cohen describing it. >> i'm going to be the personal attorney to mr. trump. >> michael is my attorney, and you'll have to ask michael. >> can i assume in that role, not being a government role, that you would have attorney/client privilege with president trump? >> yes, of course, and that relationship, hopefully, will last, you know, for not four years, but eight years. >> the attorney/client privilege that's being suggested tonight is not between cohen and trump, but between cohen and hillary loyalist lanny davis. >> for sure. there are many different facets of this now, one for certain that this is a continuation of michael cohen's separation from donald trump. donald trump used the past tense for michael co

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joining us now, daniel goldman is a former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york, now an msnbc legal analyst and here on set political reporter for the daily beast betsy woodruff, white house reporter with the associated press, zeke miller and ken dilanian intelligence and national security reporter to nbc news. daniel, let's start with you, if we can right now. this basically shuts down manafort's assertion that he was in solitary confinement for 23 hours a day, that he was unable to prepare his own defense line by line. robert mueller's team basically said, that just simply is not the way it is. >> peter, as a former prosecutor for ten years, i'm shocked to read this. this is specialized treatment like none other i've ever heard of for a pre-trial detainee who is awaiting trial. i mean, the fact of having his own work space, unlimited access to phone calls, that's highly coveted phone calls, they're very difficult to get when you're in pretrial detention. to put it in context, here in new york many defense lawyers w

with us to talk about it is daniel goldman. he is a former assistant u.s. attorney for of all places the southern district of new york. i hold this potential evidence list in my hand. there's a lot. there's a $21,000 watch. there's a mercedes and a range rover. i guess this is the predicate you lay down in a financial trial. the guy made a lot of money for a lot of years. he likes the good life and you take it from there. >> and in order to get that money into the united states without paying taxes on it, he funnels it through any number of shell companies, doesn't disclose that he has foreign registered shell companies and then transfers money from those accounts to his interior designer, to his clothing person for high-end suits, et cetera, et cetera, homes and all sorts of other luxury items. and so it's a pretty -- it looks to be like it will be a pretty intensive document case as you would expect in a tax fraud, mortgage fraud case. and i think that's ultimately what this exhibit list demonstrates. >> the prosecutors have a big help here because a very

another joining us ruth marcus, and daniel goldman, former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york. all three are msnbc contr contributors. donald trump has repeatedly lied in public. it is on the record. we have his statements. we have his contradictions. michael cohen, many would say he's not trustworthy because he worked for donald trump and, i don't know, he sumbly he did things that are not truthful for donald trump. we don't have a lot of on the record lies or falsehoods if you want to use that word, from michael cohen. the only one that i can think of is that he told chris cuomo that he wasn't recording him when he actually was. so in the credibility fight, ruth, who do you think is going to have the upper hand? >> well, in the credibility fight you have to ask a few questions. one is who has the greater motive to lie here? one of the things we've learned, say, from robert mueller is if you go to him or his investigators with a false story and lie to them, you are going to get in a lot of trouble. so if michael cohen is not tell

and daniel goldman, with me here in studio is a former assistant attorney for the southern district of new york and a fellow at the brennan center for justice. in the past, he has worked with michael cohen's attorney, guy petrillo. daniel has also just been named an msnbc legal analyst. so welcome to the family. and in honor of that, you get the first question, daniel. the "washington post" has just published a story on this in which it writes some in trump's orbits say the interview was a miscalculation if it was an attempt to reach out to the president, whom cohen had served since 2007 for attention, financial support, or even a pardon that would end cohen's legal predicament. you and i were talking earlier. you don't think this was orchestrated to be a message to the president at all? >> no. none of what came out in the abc news reports it seems to me to be a plea to trump for anything. in fact, the language he was using, the comments that he made distancing himself from the use of the word witch-hunt, distancing himself from some of the allegations that trump has made about mueller

i want to bring in daniel goldman, former u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york, now a legal analyst. pick up where ken left off there. the idea that, in fact, a judge will say, hey, sure, don't mention manafort's campaign era work. is that likely or no? >> i think probably during jury selection, the judge will want to make sure that the jury knows that manafort worked for donald trump, since trump is such a hot button and divisive topic. you want to make sure that the jury that is ultimately picked can be fair and impartial. if people have such incredibly strong feelings, either for or against trump, you want to make sure that that doesn't influence their evaluation of the evidence. >> from basically today on, daniel, this is going to be a daily reminder for president trump and for members of his administration, that the special counsel's investigation is moving forward in a court of law. >> not only is it moving forward, this is, as you know, hallie, the special counsel only speaks either in court or through court

. >> joining me now is daniel goldman, legal analyst, former assistant u.s. rney for the district of new york and fellow at the brennan center for justice. kimberly and daniel are here too. what's your reaction to what you gist heard from rudy guiliani? >> it's hard to come up with enough words to react to this. >> come up with one. >> rudy guiliani has lost all credibility. and he had some time ago. and now when he starts talking about the fact that the hacking is the crime, or collusion is not a crime. he is once again -- and i know you talked about this earlier, moving the goal posts. of course, a crime is hacking. and no one actually thinks that collusion is the crime. the crime, of course, is conspiracy to defraud the united states, which, by the way, bob mueller has already charged in other indictments against russians. so this is sort of a pr game that guiliani and the president have been trying to play that has no legal merit. >> you talk about this question of credibility, which i think is interesting. here is something else that guiliani said about m

daniel goldman and u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york. kimberly atkins for the boston herald. welcome to you both. you are here in our new york studios and i will begin with you based on home field advantage alone. you think this is actually what it is purported to be? >> i don't think they are talking about a deal at this point. >> let's go there. do the feds get angry if they say our guy got wobbley and he wants to talk about the deal you offered? >> it's unclear if they offered a deal and that's not how it would work. i think they wouldn't be angry, so to speak, but the usefulness diminished if he is behaving badly. manafort wanted a com of months of a delay and got six days. that's not going to help him. the advantage to assure the delay goes to the prosecution that can stream line the case and get all their ducks in a row. this was a win for the prosecution. >> we noted that on the new start date for the trial, the white house announced that the president plans to go to a rally that night in tampa, florida. what should we make of tha

daniel goldman and legal analyst barbara mckwaede. i don't understand what michael cohen is doing from a legal perspective. this is not the way i would handle it. you guys are people that used to be prosecutors, what do you make of what is going on is th? >> on the privilege issue, the only thing that makes sense is the special master signaled to trump and cohen, that she was going to find that this recording falls under the crime fraud exception to attorney/client privilege. rather than endure a finding like that. >> which would be catastrophic. >> politically and publicly devastating, she gave them the opportunity to with draw the privilege, their privilege assertions -- >> that is the first time that someone has made sense. that makes sense to me. we don't know if that is the case, but that is your conjecture. >> it is all conjecture. now that we have heard it, it doesn't add up. >> it is not wildly exculpatory. >> and by the way, it doesn't matter whether it is cash or a shell company. the idea that they are trying to conceal any

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daniel goldman and u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york.rly atkins for the boston herald. welcome to you both. you are here in our new york studios and i will begin with you based on home field advantage alone. in the start of a chile like, this i tend to be a bit of a cynic. i heart that and thought i wonder if they are talking about the contours of a deal. you think this is actually what it is purported to be? >> i don't think they are talking about a deal at this point. that ship has likely sailed, perhaps with the obstruction of justice. that was the last nail in that potential coffin. >> let's go there. do the feds get angry if they say our guy got wobbley and he wants to talk about the deal you offered? >> it's unclear if they offered a deal and that's not how it would work. i think they wouldn't be angry, so to speak, but the usefulness diminished if he is behaving badly. he is a less valuable witness. this six-day adjournment is fairly routine closer to the beginning of it, often times the government is producing a lot more evidence

a "gq magazine" correspondent and daniel goldman, guys, russian roulette, that book by david corn and isikof talks about that moment we saw when butina is asking president trump -- or then candidate trump a question, how she got there, how she asked the candidate that and why the candidate said he would not be for sanctions. it was ithe first time he said that. they said much later trump's campaign advisors would watch the video of this encounter and wonder about it. steve bannon raised it with rnc chair reince priebus, how was it that this russian woman happened to be in las vegas for the event and how was it that trump happened to call on her? and trump's response, it was odd, bannon thought, that trump had a fully developed answer. priebus agreed there was something strange about butina. julia, you have known her the longest i think of anyone, or known of her the longest. in 2012 you interviewed her when you were a correspondent in moscow. tell us about her. >> well, she was actually the story about her was my last story out of russia, and at the time the protests against vladimir

joining me now is pete williams and daniel goldman for the southern district of new york and msnbc legal back in russian spy novel territory. she's being compared to an infamous female russian spy by the name of chapman. >> reporter: when she pose for a picture of a real gun she was out dooing oing one of the russ spies here. this is a different kind of case that the government alleges here. they say this woman, mari maria boutina came to the united states directed by a russian government official, her funds coming from this russian official and her enrollment as a graduate student is a cover she used to try to pretend she's a stu student advocating this interest. the hearing is whether she should be released on bail while she waits on her trial. the government says she's a flight risk that she has no real ties to the u.s. she lived for a time with a republican who was an operative and a fundraiser for the republican party and she's offered to have sex with others that she did not like the guy. she was in communication with russian intelligence with real life russian spies in the u.s. fo

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daniel goldman, former assistant u.s. attorney for new york.cted? >> well, it really just comes down to whether the attorney/client privilege should apply and what is the deadline tomorrow for the trump organization is to review the documents that relate to the trump organization that were seized by the government, and make assertions as to whether any of those should fall under the attorney/client privilege. there are exceptions to it. the attorney/client privilege is actually relatively narrow, far narrower than the president would believe in the sense that you must be in the course of given legal advice for a communication to be under the privilege. so tomorrow the trump organization has to assert to the special master which of those 22,000 documents should fall under the privilege, and the special master's also considering other assertions of privilege, and ultimately the special master will decide -- i should say make a recommendation to the judge to say, "these documents should not go to the government because they're privileged." at that

daniels and avenatti telling us we don't have a decision from that judge. when we get a decision, we'll pass it along to you. we got two of them sitting with me now, dan goldman and danny savallos here on msnbc. what was michael cohen's attorney asking for and why would he be asking for that and we don't have a decision from the judge yet but let's start there. >> cohen's attorney was asking for a gag order that's asking the court to impose an password on one of the -- any time you ask a judge for a gag order, there is important first amendment inl pmplications. you may remember back here in the southern district that the judge actually told avenatti in court, hey, if you want to be apart of this case then you are going to be subjected to the rules of this court which are strict about speaking. >> that was kimball wood. >> michael avenatti said i will think about it and we never heard from him again. the gag order in this case was a long shot for the cohen's team because the case long does not have a lot of instances and not a lot of precedensidents imposi unilateral gag order on someone like avenatti in a situation like this. it was a valn effort to silence