daniel gordon is senior advocacy advisor in athens for the, the level charity sites, the children. i asked him earlier to tell us more about the assistance the operations. so what we know is it is advisors were transferred to southern greece and then are being transported to a refugee come outside of athens, as your port mentions. and clearly these people in distress, that means i care and support and protection then what is your understanding of the conditions for at least 40 children and 60 or more women and how they would treated by people smugglers on this ship. and do we know why that will place the logic of the so the 3rd there is an entirely clear picture of what is happened over the over the last days. so what we do know is quite shocking and horrified. i'm so those reports that up to 750 people were on board the ship and i up to 100 children who are who are below deck. so one of the biggest tragedies in the magistrate in that was that we've seen the, it's unclear what the, the, the conditions where but reports are, that was very me over, i'm over trying to ship. i and i am

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