what cheryl said about finding daniel holmesy. do you know daniel holmesy? >> i know other people that are my husband is on the treasure island advisary committee. treasure island's an area the city is investing in. i think you can leverage resources. >> if i can briefly answer becky's question. this is for everybody. number one, stay positive. >> number 2, listen to your constituency that's important and i think the key to the whole thing is find somebody in if it's department of public works or any organization sfpuc whom ever and get a liaison and invite them to the meeting. don't just have a complaint session come up with a problem and say, we will work together to solve this problem. here's what we can do. how can you help us? how can we work together. that's the key. organizations love coming to our meetings because it's not a c p complaints we try to keep it positive we work with the agencies and that's the key to it. >> we were going to have volunteers but i don't see them so we are doing it this way. [inaudible]. >> great question. the question pose