but knife crime is a real problem. >> daniel kawczynski, let's bnng >> daniel kawczynski, let's bringou in here. it was certain sense of irony. i believe in sadiq khan coming out and condemning this knife crime in london streets many people feel is totally out of control and today's attack the randomness, it appears, of it unknown victims to the perpetrator. an act that's much, much more chilling. >> well, it's not. it's not only in the streets of london. when i represented shrewsbury, we saw over the last few years a significant increase in anti—social behaviour in the high street criminality. i had to spend more and more of my time as a member of parliament, working with the police and crime commissioner. there's no doubtin crime commissioner. there's no doubt in my mind over the last few years i take winston's point that we've got to get everything into context, but there's no doubt that over the last few years i think the respect for the police perhaps hasn't been there to the degree that it should be, and that criminals have not feared sufficiently as sentences, and that this is