greta: a right, daniel klaidman. right, daniel klaidman.one of the reasons we did this project, is i was in nevada, i went to a trump rally in las vegas and i was curious to see what they were like and who the voters were. i spent a lot of time talking to voters and my initial reaction was -- these people are friendly. a were having fun, they were polite. i didn't hear the darker impulses that i was reading about. there was nothing threatening or menacing about the rally itself. it started to change once the rally started and trump started to speak. some people remember this because it was played on television a lot. there was a protester who stood up quietly, showed a sign, and trump said "get him out of here. if this were another time, they'd take him out on the stretcher. i would like to punch the guy in the face." the crowd roared. votersu talk to these individually, they did not betray this kind of anger. there was something about the way he was able to whip them up into a kind of frenzy where you started to see that more menacing side

greta: daniel klaidman, your thoughts?hef caller was saying at the outset, this was the reason we decided to do this project. we thought that some of the coverage of trump voters did kind of caricature them. point about the perception that trump voters are not educated. there is a significant percentage of voters that do not have college degrees but donald amonghas won college-educated voters in many of the states where there have been primaries and caucuses. that theply not true vast majority of these voters are uneducated or undereducated. many are educated and have college degrees and some even beyond that. one of the other things the caller was getting at is an important part of donald trump's appeal which we heard from voters, he is saying the things -- other political candidates will not do because they are politically correct or to conventional. --too conventional. a politician that is willing to break with political orthodoxy. he has taken these positions on trade, for example, which has been the republican party a

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