with me now, as promised, is daniel levy, president of the us middle east project. i'm sorry we could not have you here on set in new york, but i understand that you went back home. but we greatly appreciate you staying up late for us. before this ceasefire deal, over the course of the last 16 months, we constantly saw we now heard that the israeli prime minister worked to undermine ceasefire negotiations, including from members of his own cabinet that boasted about it. he did that for multiple reasons, including to hold that coalition together, perhaps to save off his personal corruption trial, perhaps to avoid a reckoning over how he failed to protect israelis on october 7th. let's talk about what is the goal now. and now that the phase one of the ceasefire has ended, what do you think he's aiming to do? well, it's good to. >> be with you. >> and look, i think. >> for netanyahu. >> those same. considerations still apply, which is how do i hold my coalition together? >> how do. >> i. maintain the ability. >> to have. >> the politics of the country focused on war? h

today we're talking with daniel levy, president of the us middle east project in a former is really government negotiate or maybe recently testified before the un security council on gaza. and israel, daniel, thanks so much for joining us today. but let's just get right down to it. right now, we've seen largely most of phase one of this negotiated deal and a ceasefire between come us and his real completed with the exchange of prisoners per capita. is that how mazda take? and now we're looking at whether phase 2 has any chance of, of moving forward. what are, what are you, what is your take on this we did have the implementation of phase one, steve very well, the crew 9. they with gaps in that implementation of primarily and factually. this is just to acknowledge the primarily those gaps from things that it is really side committed to and did not deliver. perhaps the most significant, well not in terms of its immediate impact on people's lives, was, is roles, refusal to engage in negotiations over phase 2. they didn't send a team. those were supposed to begin all day 60. it's questionable whet

the fear that my guess, daniel levy expressed in his testimony before the un security council, that the future of guys that will be defined by a 0 sum approach is extremely important. is that framing has already taken hold of the highest levels of us government backing is real. what this means is that the future of gauze is now dictated by arrows who see a future with kaiser with palestinians, but with many of the governance issues and resolved. and on the other side is real and the current press, united states seeing most of gaza permanently be populated by the palestinians. now living there, they're not seeing a future where both is real. east and palestinians are both in these lands co existing. the story of israel and gauze of these last 18 months has been tragic, one of horrors on both sides and of now the annihilation of not hum us, but rather of palestinian schools. hospital shops, community centers, indiscriminate killing, a palestinians, so many of whom are innocent men, women, and children, and the solutions to the crisis. now, at the end, the phase one of the agreement and ef

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