daniel mac adams, the executive director of the wrong paul institute is back with us. thanks so much for sticking around, daniel. so let's go to this whole hollywood topic. i can think of the case of laura ling a journalist working for the now defunct current t, v al gore's brief media venture. she's the younger sister of journalist lisa ling, who at the time in 2009 was a special correspondent for the oprah winfrey show. so these 2 women are well connected to say the least. so after a 140 day captivity in north korea, we saw bill clinton himself, fly into pyongyang to rescue laura lee and you know, lee, another american journalist, captured with lane. why was wings, life more worthy of savings and gonzalez as well. we're in a depressing era manila where everything has now been politicized. you know, and this was one of the triumphs of, of the soviet leadership in, in eastern europe and the soviet union were even your personal and interpersonal relationships were politicized. we certainly have the politicization of justice here in the united states, someone like gonzalg