i'm joined by my guess, daniel mc, adams, and lake jackson. he's the executive director of the ron paul institute for peace and prosperity in washington state. we have on 3 month round of he is a writer, as well as a military and political analyst. and in loan's we cross to young oberg. he is the director of the swedish independent transnational foundation for peace and future research, or a gentleman cross sack rules that affect that means you can jump any time you want . and i always appreciate, danny. let me go to you 1st and like jackson here, nato is double down, you know, it's a, it's a there. they met in book book arrests, you know, they, they're doing it all over again. the door is open. so how is ukraine done over the years, with the open door to nato? has it really benefited nato? it all has it benefited nato, who has a benefit? go ahead, daniel. well, who its benefit is, of course, the beltway band. that's the u. s. weapons manufacturers, raytheon who's representative is now our secretary of defense, or who made bracy on missiles. t